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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That issue with the power pull down was notorious, people would slam the trunks and it would jam the pull down mechanism and that would happen
Been around those my whole life with GM cars (not recently), never saw one broken once.
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With all due respect, you're exaggerating it somewhat. Back in those days, when you paid extra for a Cadillac, you generally got something for your money, although not to the extent of what was the case decades earlier, when the Cadillac slogan was the "Standard of the World".
I don't think its exaggerating at all. In the luxury world Cadillac's interior quality was the worst at that time, even Lincoln was better. So, saying that Cadillac made GM's best interiors when GM's interiors were arguably the worst in the industry isn't saying anything but "they were the best of the worst". You got something better than a Chevy, but not better than any of its competitors. Again...we had a mid 90s Cadillac, did you?! Compare a 95 Seville to a 95 Continental, the Continental was MUCH nicer inside and better built, better ergonomics...when you went to the Japanese or the Germans it was a whole other world...and the Cadillac wasn't that much cheaper.

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Gets back to what I said earlier in another thread.....some people don't understand how automotive systems work. I myself am no exception.....while I am more educated than average in the automotive field, there are a number things on today's cars I don't mess with (Android, Apple-Car-Play, Alexa, Bluetooth, Advanced-NAV, etc....) simply because of their complexity and the fact that I don't understand how some of it works.
No, it means it was poorly designed. Modern systems don't break when slammed. It happened all the time when others were closing your trunk, bag boys at the golf course, parcel loaders at the grocery store, bellmen at a hotel...you can't expect all those people to know how trunks on specific cars worked.

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Been around those my whole life with GM cars (not recently), never saw one broken once.
Happened multiple times to my Dad's Lincoln Continental and his STS. Somebody would slam the trunk and that was it, had to be strapped down and go to the dealer.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Happened multiple times to my Dad's Lincoln Continental and his STS. Somebody would slam the trunk and that was it, had to be strapped down and go to the dealer.
Interesting. I'm not saying we were "rough" on them but not neccesarrily gentle either. Several cars we had with those.

I might add nobody knows LS430 has a power soft close trunk (much better design) and always slams it, lmao.... still works fine.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Interesting. I'm not saying we were "rough" on them but not neccesarrily gentle either. Several cars we had with those.

I might add nobody knows LS430 has a power soft close trunk (much better design) and always slams it, lmao.... still works fine.
The key was you always handled the trunk. Our issue was when someone else would slam the trunk, we knew that you had to just sit it down and let it close but the people I mentioned didn't know any better.

LS430's trunk was an example of a better system that didn't happen to.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The key was you always handled the trunk. Our issue was when someone else would slam the trunk, we knew that you had to just sit it down and let it close but the people I mentioned didn't know any better.

LS430's trunk was an example of a better system that didn't happen to.

What typically happens when people slam trunks shut that weren't designed to be slammed is that they screw up the sensors, and then the mechanism doesn't work properly. And, for safety-reasons, the newer power trunk/hatch-lid sensors are also programmed to detect when a human arm, leg, dog, cat, etc...is in the way, and go back up rather than close on it.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Happened multiple times to my Dad's Lincoln Continental and his STS. Somebody would slam the trunk and that was it, had to be strapped down and go to the dealer.
I definitely recall that happening because I...I broke my grandpa's DeVille trunk lid that way as a child. He bought a S500 once his lease ended.

Side note, I do remember that car having weird brake light indicators in the roof of the car. I tried googling it but all I can find is this from a '87:
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I definitely recall that happening because I...I broke my grandpa's DeVille trunk lid that way as a child. He bought a S500 once his lease ended.

Side note, I do remember that car having weird brake light indicators in the roof of the car. I tried googling it but all I can find is this from a '87:
Those are there to let him know they're working, not sure the nitty gritty. Pretty neat, but it's olllllld tech. They would blink with the blinkers too I believe, you'd always see it in the rear view. There would be front indications on the fenders visible to the driver in some cases.
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What typically happens when people slam trunks shut that weren't designed to be slammed is that they screw up the sensors, and then the mechanism doesn't work properly.
Well....yeah....
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I've never seen a Ford with one, ever. Grandparents had a 1988 relatively loaded Sable.
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I've never seen a Ford with one, ever. Grandparents had a 1988 relatively loaded Sable.
His Lincoln Continental had one
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Got the Mercedes back, its always wild the huge difference new tires make...
Now you can compare ride quality from the Nissan to your S. Go ahead, it should be relatively close right?

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It's a shame because those Caddy interiors were super nice, just assembled horrendously.
Yeah, that was GM's calling card... horrendous interiors but they looked really nice, especially in pictures.

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I definitely recall that happening because I...I broke my grandpa's DeVille trunk lid that way as a child. He bought a S500 once his lease ended.

Side note, I do remember that car having weird brake light indicators in the roof of the car. I tried googling it but all I can find is this from a '87:
Rear center brake lights were introduced a few years prior to 87. Maybe that has something to do with it, the breaking in point and manufacturers just kind of stuck them on as after thoughts.

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It did, in 96 was a huge upgrade. Right after he got his 95, he was not pleased lol. His had the Northstar, I think it was added in 93? Maybe 94. I can't remember the name of the leather either, but it was thick beautiful leather.

This is the 96 upgrade:



His was black with chrome wheels like this, super great looking car:

Beautiful looking car, just turned out to be garbage for most customers who bought one.
Old Jul 6, 2023 | 07:31 PM
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Beautiful looking car, just turned out to be garbage for most customers who bought one.
True.
Good news tho is they depreciated like no other so someone can buy for a song and have a nice car.

Parts readily available and can be worked on anywhere.

For these reasons, I have strongly consider used caddys but never did it.
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True.
Good news tho is they depreciated like no other so someone can buy for a song and have a nice car.

Parts readily available and can be worked on anywhere.

For these reasons, I have strongly consider used caddys but never did it.
Lol that is certainly true. These just have such a unique cool look, especially on the outside.
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Lol that is certainly true. These just have such a unique cool look, especially on the outside.
Yes sir you got that right. 🤠

They look good and drive good.
I always considered them a bargain for buying used.

Just never trusted them fully for reliability tho but I should've given them a chance maybe.

My neighbor has been driving his caddy for 10 years Ive been here. It looks like a 2000 ish model and still mint.
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