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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
How many times or how often have you driven down the wrong way?
In the past week, I've seen two people "self driving" their cars doing just that. I didn't watch your videos, but I assume it's a Tesla going the wrong way somewhere. My old Lexus wanted me to go down the wrong way on a one way street in Chicago a few years ago using its navigation. I don't believe anyone is claiming FSD is perfect at this point.
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
In the past week, I've seen two people "self driving" their cars doing just that. I didn't watch your videos, but I assume it's a Tesla going the wrong way somewhere. My old Lexus wanted me to go down the wrong way on a one way street in Chicago a few years ago using its navigation. I don't believe anyone is claiming FSD is perfect at this point.
But did YOU proceed down the wrong way?

In the examples posted that you didn’t view, Tesla trip planner/navigation was enabled, FSD was active, and FSD proceeded to drive down the wrong way.

Someone just posted FSD is better driving at night than that person…like @swajames posted, “comically easy to get a drivers license in the U.S.”
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
But did YOU proceed down the wrong way?

In the examples posted that you didn’t view, Tesla trip planner/navigation was enabled, FSD was active, and FSD proceeded to drive down the wrong way.

Someone just posted FSD is better driving at night than that person…like @swajames posted, “comically easy to get a drivers license in the U.S.”
What FSD version and what HW? I'm sure that's all included in the video.
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 06:56 PM
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I drove through DT San Jose as well as Down town LA which is full of One way streets not once did it ever try to go the wrong way. Nobody has claimed here that FSD is perfect, but I can say with certainty at 58 years old and 35 plus years of driving experience it drives better than any human being when it comes to accident avoidance and awareness of vehicles around it, anyone who believes they have faster reaction time and the ability to avoid accidents better definitely have, let's say a trump sized ego

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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Ok, Boomer!

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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I drove through DT San Jose as well as Down town LA which is full of One way streets not once did it ever try to go the wrong way. Nobody has claimed here that FSD is perfect, but I can say with certainty at 58 years old and 35 plus years of driving experience it drives better than any human being when it comes to accident avoidance and awareness of vehicles around it, anyone who believes they have faster reaction time and the ability to avoid accidents better definitely have, let's say a trump sized ego
Its not about having a faster reaction time or better awareness, its about experience, judgement and decision making skills. I'm not certain that a computer has those things more in abundance than I do. Faster reaction times? Sure.
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its not about having a faster reaction time or better awareness, its about experience, judgement and decision making skills. I'm not certain that a computer has those things more in abundance than I do. Faster reaction times? Sure.
It's not about decision making skills, you can be an Einstein in that department, it's about what you can't see, having the ability to see in 8 directions at once, and reacting fast enough to avoid situations faster than your brain can. I've been in two major accidents where I didn't see it coming (none my fault) because the person was out of my sight of vision. FSD in most cases can spot situations before we can even process them.

Someone who tracks their car regularly may be able to go around a winding track better than FSD, but that same person can't see 8 different directions at once and avoid some idiot who suddenly changes lanes in their blind spot, or avoid an object in the road they spot at the last second, especially if they maybe had something to drink. The brain just doesn't work that fast, which is why so many people are killed in accidents
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Old Apr 8, 2026 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
It's not about decision making skills, you can be an Einstein in that department, it's about what you can't see, having the ability to see in 8 directions at once, and reacting fast enough to avoid situations faster than your brain can. I've been in two major accidents where I didn't see it coming (none my fault) because the person was out of my sight of vision. FSD in most cases can spot situations before we can even process them.

Someone who tracks their car regularly may be able to go around a winding track better than FSD, but that same person can't see 8 different directions at once and avoid some idiot who suddenly changes lanes in their blind spot, or avoid an object in the road they spot at the last second, especially if they maybe had something to drink. The brain just doesn't work that fast, which is why so many people are killed in accidents
I don't doubt it will get there but I am not convinced at all that it is there yet. It can spot situations but it can't use my judgement and experience to react to what it spots.
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Old Apr 9, 2026 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
it can't use my judgement and experience to react to what it spots.
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As of early 2026, Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (Supervised) system has surpassed 8.4 billion cumulative miles of real-world driving data. This data is gathered from millions of customer vehicles to train neural networks and improve, with a goal of roughly 10 billion miles deemed necessary by Elon Musk for safe unsupervised autonomy.
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Old Apr 9, 2026 | 05:53 AM
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In all of those miles there have been accidents. I have been driving a car for almost 30 years and I have never had an accident that was my fault (knock on wood). Thats not luck its ability, many people can't drive a few years between having at fault accidents. Again...not tempting fate lol

I don't yet have confidence in a computer program's ability to make dynamic decisions over my own ability. To me these things are all still tools to help me drive.

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Old Apr 10, 2026 | 11:31 AM
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We can all glorify the technology until something happens to us. Lol. Don't get me wrong. It's one of the greatest if not the greatest invention in our lifetime but man once it got you wrong once, you can never get over it and always in the "ready mode" instead of "supervised mode." Maybe just me. Speaking of fsd... did we all see this today? Sure supervised and blame the driver but this is just crazy. I saw it on my social feed but can't find it now. I thought he said it stopped then just took off.
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Old Apr 10, 2026 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
We can all glorify the technology until something happens to us. Lol. Don't get me wrong. It's one of the greatest if not the greatest invention in our lifetime but man once it got you wrong once, you can never get over it and always in the "ready mode" instead of "supervised mode." Maybe just me. Speaking of fsd... did we all see this today? Sure supervised and blame the driver but this is just crazy. I saw it on my social feed but can't find it now. I thought he said it stopped then just took off.
Humans still make more mistakes, which is why there are over 40k accidents a year.

Why does this seem to happen to everyone else but me? Used it for 6 months straight. Guess I'm lucky?
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Old Apr 10, 2026 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames
It is hard to overstate how asinine this is. The entire point is that it isn't a coin flip. The technology is always on and always improving, and people aren't and can't be alert all the time.
I think what's asinine is how you comprehend my posts. You seem to always read and spin certain posts into certain directions to support your arguments. You don't seem asinine enough to not understand my posts. But somehow you often chose to understand the ways that fit your narratives.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Humans still make more mistakes, which is why there are over 40k accidents a year.

Why does this seem to happen to everyone else but me? Used it for 6 months straight. Guess I'm lucky?
But if every human driver was replaced with self driving how many accidents would there be? You assume it would be less, but thats an assumption. There isn't any data that proves it would be less, which is what we are saying.

I respect you've been using FSD for 6 months with no accidents, but like I said I have been driving for 30 years with no accidents. So, 6 months doesn't convince me its safer than me.
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