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Drivers have been doing this daily for over a hundred years.

I spotted him on the shoulder with my good 👁️ 1,000ft away in that “heavy fog/rain” with mostly dry lanes. I would’ve gotten into left lane soon as I spotted him instead of swerving to the left lane at the last second.

I’ve only been driving for couple days what do I know

 

lol, yes I was just going to post this. Im a fan of FSD but just because it knows to swerve out of the way doesn't mean it "Saved" that person. A human driver might have also swerved out of the way.

 

you’re both making the same poor assumption. A human driver might indeed have reacted the same way, but equally might have been distracted and missed it, with potentially fatal results. The entire point is that the car is always paying attention and less likely to miss the hazard. If you were able to rerun this specific scenario multiple times, chances are the car would outperform a random selection of human drivers.

and as for those supposedly “good eyes”, Bayeaux, you already knew something was going to happen in the video, and were specifically looking for it.

 

Whenever I see someone walking/standing on shoulder of a highway, if it permits, I always get into a further lane. Not expecting something to happen but to give them somewhat of a safe space from vehicles moving at highway speeds.

 

Very well said. It's a machine vs human.

 

And what if you were distracted, you looked at your phone for a second? One time a guy drove in front of me on his bicycle, I saw him coming from a mile away but looked down for a about a second and BOOM hit him as he tried to cross. Luckily no one was hurt, but with FSD that would have NEVER happened. So you are totally missing the point

 

I still remember when FSD saved us from being hit from some idiot while driving through Atlanta last year. We were just going along with traffic, when all of a sudden the car shifted over to the right shoulder. I looked at my mirror and saw a car had swerved into our lane. I never would have seen that in real time.

 

I think people totally miss the point with FSD. Sure we avoid accidents daily, if a guy crosses in front of us or cuts in front of us we brake or swerve out of the way, but what if someone we don't see in our blind spot is coming too fast behind us, or changing into our lanes? Of what if your phone rings or that text comes in from your mistress telling your she's free, you reach for your phone being distracted for half a second and someone slams their brakes or cuts in front, or tries to run across the street? They are called accidents, they don't happen on purpose and most happen when we are distracted, that's where the power of FSD comes in

 

I’ll just bow out now

 

Thank you. You will never win against us Tessies

 

I don't have FSD activated yet on my new-to-me Model S, but I had it on my MYP for 3 years and both cars are HW 3. One thing I'm noticing on the S that certainly seems different (and I can't figure out why) is it doesn't do a good job of finding the correct speed limit signs on certain roads. For example, I was driving on the Turnpike yesterday (a major interstate here in FL with a 70mph speed limit) and near one of the left-exit rest areas, the camera picked up the 15mph speed limit for the off ramp to the rest area... even though I was not exiting and I was going 80mph as I passed it. So the speed limit should have indicated 70mph, not 15 mph. It made me wonder if I had FSD on.... would the car have slowed down to 15-20 mph? That would be a VERY bad thing.

I also noticed when I did get off on an exit, the car visual was showing me the 70mph speed limit sign, even though I was on an off ramp with a pretty hefty turn where the speed limit is absolutely NOT 70mph. In reality you should really be going 45-55mph on those turns. So again, I wondered what FSD would have done in that scenario. It's visually showing me the last speed limit sign it thinks it saw, but it's not correct.

I might activate it just to see what happens. I can't understand why the S would do a worse job of detecting speed limit signs compared to the Y.. but that was a 20 mile drive and I noticed those 2 potential mistakes. Anyone else ever see that on any Tesla model?

 

I've experienced the exact same thing on both a Y and S (both hardware 4 - demo test drives) , however it doesn't seem to adversely impact FSD. I guess it's "smart" enough not to drop to 15 mph on a highway as an example?

But I found it annoying as my OG S doesn't make mistakes like that (incorrectly reading physical posted speed limits). Yes, I know my cars software and hardware is not the same, but reading signs seems basic to me.

 

I wonder if my Y occasionally did the same thing and I just didn't see it for some reason. I think the speed limit sign is more apparent on the S due to the dedicated screen above the steering wheel. I can't make sense of why the 2 cars would be any different in cameras simply detecting the most recent and correct speed limit sign.

 

I think both sides are making assumptions but my pov did not make a statement of saving lives. The tweet says FSD just saved lives. How do you save a life, when you don't know whether a human driver would have done the same thing? You also don't know for sure FSD will do it 100% of the time. When I use FSD, it doesn't always do the same thing every time on the same street.