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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 05:49 AM
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Just get FSD lol. Its $100.
that’s what every car maker wishes it had, $100 subscriptions! lol

i’ve realized the majority of the car business is very broken because most car makers make money on the car sale, but after that, only money on parts. and tesla’s warranty costs have got to be very low.

bmw making heated seats or apple carplay a subscription was stupid. tesla making fsd a subscription was a game changer. i would never have had it with the $8k price tag. i’ve seen arguments both ways on whether the monthly cost will go up or down (musk has said it will go higher with full autonomy) but they’ve set a precedent for a larger subscription. i think i read 10% of teslas have fsd? if they’ve sold maybe 5M cars, that’s 500,000 with fsd, and at 100 a month, that’s $50M a month - not chump change. what subscriptions also allow is for the price of the car to be lowered. like razors and razor blades or inkjet printers and cartridges. if this plays out you could see very inexpensive ev’s at some point. meanwhile ice/hybrid cars just seem to get more expensive.
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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 05:57 AM
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Yep very smart, and it comes with having something worth paying for. FSD is worth the cost, heated seats are a basic thing everybody should have.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yep very smart, and it comes with having something worth paying for. FSD is worth the cost, heated seats are a basic thing everybody should have.
not everyone has your budget.
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not everyone has your budget.
Everybody who has a new Tesla has $100 in their budget. Thats not even a dinner out for 2 people anymore.

And specifically AMIRIZA does. He clearly wants FSD, I see no point in denying himself the feature he wants when he can pay for it comfortably.
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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 06:28 AM
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Paying a monthy subscription for GPS or heated seats I believe will only make people angry.

However, something like FSD?
Yeah, I can see it for people who are not good drivers.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Everybody who has a new Tesla has $100 in their budget. Thats not even a dinner out for 2 people anymore.

And specifically AMIRIZA does. He clearly wants FSD, I see no point in denying himself the feature he wants when he can pay for it comfortably.
It's definitely chump change, but keep in mind, I'm so cheap, I even bargain at the dollar store
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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 07:22 AM
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It's definitely chump change, but keep in mind, I'm so cheap, I even bargain at the dollar store
Yeah but you're clearly missing having the feature, thinking about it when you're driving without it..posting about it...whats the point in that? Just get it lol
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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Paying a monthy subscription for GPS or heated seats I believe will only make people angry.

However, something like FSD?
Yeah, I can see it for people who are not good drivers.
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you mean almost all drivers then.


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Everybody who has a new Tesla has $100 in their budget.
i think that's profoundly insensitive.

teslas cost what a camry costs. some people budget down to the dollar... child care, health care, student loans, kids, car payments, rent/mortgage, saving, on and on. not everyone has $100 to spend on something very optional.

Thats not even a dinner out for 2 people anymore.
maybe they want a dinner more than fsd. many people have to choose trade-offs.

And specifically AMIRIZA does. He clearly wants FSD, I see no point in denying himself the feature he wants when he can pay for it comfortably.
glad you've analyzed his finances in depth.
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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 07:34 AM
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LOL, come on. If you're buying a new $50,000 car you have $100 a month. If you dont you shouldn't be buying a new $50k car.

If you don't want it then don't buy it, I'm just saying denying yourself something you want for $100 a month is silly if spending that wouldn't hurt you financially. He clearly wants it, and I am pretty confident he can afford it...he should just get it. Personally I wouldn't get it because I wouldn't use it. But...he would use it every trip like you do.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
LOL, come on. If you're buying a new $50,000 car you have $100 a month. If you dont you shouldn't be buying a new $50k car.

If you don't want it then don't buy it, I'm just saying denying yourself something you want for $100 a month is silly if spending that wouldn't hurt you financially. He clearly wants it, and I am pretty confident he can afford it...he should just get it. Personally I wouldn't get it because I wouldn't use it. But...he would use it every trip like you do.
I paid $41k (and some change), out the door
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Old Mar 16, 2026 | 11:36 AM
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Lately every week I’ve been thinking about a Tesla and it’s FSD for when I’m driving and feeling little tired. Doesn’t have to be a Tesla but FSD or the like would be nice.

Take a nap 😴 while charging

Plus I still have my Lvl 2 charger.

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Higher energy prices, including oil, will increase prices for basically everything. Plus most people dont have a charger wired up or simply cant. Spending 30 to 40k to save $10 at the pump makes no sense only to regret it later.


Welp this is what changes my mind.

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I paid $41k (and some change), out the door
Still...you get my point.
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Old Mar 19, 2026 | 02:48 PM
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Rivian calls their system Universal Hands-Free it is neither universal or hands free in fact insanely dangerous. This is worse than Autopilot was 12 years ago.

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Here we go... 🤭

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Old Mar 28, 2026 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
My FSD subscription ended almost a month back, so last night on a longer drive I used Autopilot with steering enabled. And now I miss FSD. A couple of reasons... when I hit a construction zone on the freeway, it panicked when there was a barrier wall to the right, started screaming for me to take over and nearly drifted into it. Also where I live in the Bay area, people have no idea how to drive, so you hit pockets of slow drivers who have no idea the left lane is for faster driving/passing, so I have to keep disengaging to go around them. It's basically good for a long stretch where you can maintain a consistent speed, no construction zones, and perfect painted lines on the road. It doesn't even come close to FSD
I wonder what FSD would do... In construction zones, I personally would drive myself.
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not everyone has your budget.
And he and/or most (aka you are not included, lol) the ones that do... are unlikely going to buy an MY or M3.
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LOL, come on. If you're buying a new $50,000 car you have $100 a month. If you dont you shouldn't be buying a new $50k car.
If you don't want it then don't buy it, I'm just saying denying yourself something you want for $100 a month is silly if spending that wouldn't hurt you financially. He clearly wants it, and I am pretty confident he can afford it...he should just get it.
50k car or MY/M3 in this case can be had/borrowed for 400-500/month, right? You really think these people are comfortable to add another 100/month? I highly doubt it. I remember seeing people not wanting to pay 19/month for internet on these cars.
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Personally I wouldn't get it because I wouldn't use it.
+1. Very cool and all but I have learned it's not for me. I remember I was always in "ready" mode just in case. Lol.
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