I had a 2026 Model X (HW 4) for an overnight test drive and on two occasions it waited until the very last minute to get into the far right lane to get on to an on ramp for the highway. I found this mistake to be very basic and silly as it had to get in front of other cars in a manner that I wouldn't have done.

I had the driving profile on Hurry mode btw

 

You don't have to eat a rotten egg to find out it's rotten, but some are gullible enough to keep swallowing that "feature complete" sauce from Elon, lol. It's hilarious to make a mockery of.

https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/

 

except no one here has said that. glad you're entertaining yourself.

what people who have or have had it say it is amazing today, but it is not perfect, and like tesla says, it requires the person sitting in the driver's seat to supervise and take over if needed.

but you'll no doubt keep believing the fiction in your head.

 

I've just came back to CL after a four year break, and well before I left there were a ton of Tesla FSD discussions, and I've read the same exact nonsense back then - update xx.xx would fix whatever edge cases, yet it keeps failing the most basic tasks. Even when the FSD system was neutered by elimination of a radar for obvious cost cutting reasons, they were somehow spinning it as an improvement for the system to rely on cheap cameras alone.

You can say the technology is amazing from the research point of view, but in real world application it is just a gimmick, and will forever stay in perpetual state of being a gimmick. From what I see, in the years since it's launch there hasn't even been a marginal improvement to speak of, as it keeps making the same basic mistakes.

I'm not hating on the tech itself, but it's available to people with IQ below room temperature, and they abuse it and endanger everyone else on the road.

The fiction has been coming from Elon for over a decade, and it's hilarious when fools believe in it. https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/

 

Listen people, don't feed the zoo animals. Please 😒

 

This take is pretty hard to square with what's actually happening on the ground — and I say that as someone who follows this space closely, not as a Tesla fanboy.


The claim that there's been no marginal improvement since launch isn't just debatable — at this point it's factually out of step with what's been shipping. FSD v14 launched in October 2025 and has been described even by independent, skeptic-leaning voices in the owner community as a genuine turning point not a Tesla press release, actual owners reporting a qualitatively different experience.

And we're now at v14.3 on Hardware 4 cars, which is not a minor patch. Tesla rewrote the AI compiler and runtime from the ground up using MLIR, delivering a 20% improvement in reaction time, upgraded the neural network vision encoder for better performance in low-visibility and rare scenarios, and upgraded the Reinforcement Learning stage for improvements across a wide variety of driving situations. That's not iterating on a gimmick — that's foundational engineering work.


The broader trajectory matters too. By February 2026, Tesla reported that customers had collectively driven 8.3 billion miles on FSD (Supervised) (Wikipedia) — that's a real-world data flywheel no other company is anywhere close to replicating. In January 2026, MotorTrend named FSD the best ADAS system on the market , and Tesla launched a commercial robotaxi service in Austin in June 2025 using unmodified production vehicles. You can disagree with Musk on a lot of things — I often do — but "zero progress" doesn't survive contact with those facts.


Is it perfect and fully autonomous? No. Even in head-to-head testing, HW4 isn't flawless , and edge cases still exist. That's a totally fair and honest critique. But there's a big difference between "still has room to grow" and "perpetual gimmick with no improvement." The former is accurate. The latter is an opinion formed — by your own admission — without sitting behind the wheel of one. That's worth acknowledging before staking out such a definitive position

 

This is especially hilarious since I have read a bunch of similar gibberish ever since autopilot/fsd hype started, and the system keep making the same fails. It will still do the same 10 years from now, and the same excuse with “just wait for xx.xx” will be used.

 

What "same fails" do you refer to? Not a Tesla fan boy here, but the current version is very good, even if it's not perfect. The old days where the wheel would just randomly jerk around as it tries to figure out what to do are gone. Movement is very smooth and it is 95% accurate I would say in my use. To say that it has been the same since its release is false. To say it will stay this way in the next 10 years is also highly improbable.

 

I have no idea why you guys keep arguing with someone who only wants to believe their narrative. People who ride motorcycles are low IQ, or that's what I've read

 

it's not really gibberish these days, though, it's basically how it is. And for good reason. Tesla pushes out major releases and incremental updates all the time, and very often the answer is just that whatever a particular identified issue may be, it will indeed be addressed in a future update. The version of 14.3 that will ultimately gets pushed to most users is already at least two versions ahead of the early limited-release version that you will see on Youtube, for example. That's just how it is. Tesla responds quickly to issues and there are myriad ways to to get real time feedback to Tesla if something unexpected happens. If you are using FSD and choose to disengage, the car will ask you to optionally record a voice memo to Tesla engineers explaining what you were doing and why you chose to take back control. It's a very positive feedback loop that directly influences the product development.

I'd encourage you to keep an open mind and to give FSD a try. Just make sure it's a HW4 car running the latest generally available version so you get to see the best Tesla has to offer. The best way to do that is to maybe take a test drive at a Tesla location.

I hope you will see and hope you will ultimately agree that FSD really isn't gimmick.

 

Take this "incident" for instance... how much of attention is needed to disengage this behavior safely? The worse part is if this happens in a wrong place/time, you could have gotten chased/shot. While this incident is no where near critical as some others, it proves that FSD can do things unexpectedly.

 

Oh I was very alert and ready to take over if I felt an accident was to occur. It was just driving like an idiot and waiting till the last minute to do something it's algorithm should have figured out to not do - as in - the off ramp is not far and there are so many cars already in the far right lane - signal sooner rather than later to get in line.

It felt as if the algorithm had no clue the off ramp was close and only figured that out too late, or it knew the off ramp was close and the line up of cars waiting to exit was long and it could not get into the line, so it decided - hey I'll try at the last minute rather than earlier to get in line. 🤔

 

I am not hating the technology behind FSD, it is impressive, I am just realistic about it. It is nowhere near flawless even under ideal scenarios, and there are so many real world scenarios that it simply can not and does not account for. These incremental updates are going to become less and less meaningful as the tech requires exponentially more processing power with diminishing returns, and at the rate it's been progressing all of us are going to be long gone and FSD is going to still be "just wait two more weeks for xx.xx", lol.

But I find it amusing to ridicule FSD simps and their absurd claims. Even back when Autopilot was first released many of them were proclaiming that in 10 years we wont have to have a drivers license, truck drivers will all lose their jobs, and so much other nonsense. And when it became clear that the tech has mostly plateaued, they switched and started molesting the language and claiming that "full self driving" doesn't actually mean full self driving, and I just can't have a serious conversation with such phonies.


I don't see the point of FSD if you still have to watch the road and be ready to take over at any time. Furthermore, I am not interested in any type of safety system that would interfere by taking over the control of brake or steering away from me.

 

I wasn't asking you specifically. I'm not sure why you're very alert in this case () but honestly I always felt I had to be more alert/focused/ready-to-act when using it. Maybe I lost trust but that's why I personally don't see much value in this wonderful tech.

As an ex HW4 version 13 owner, I wholeheartedly approve this message. Lol. I think V13 on HW4 was the most improved/anticipated update. I can't comment on 14 but my cousin has V14 and it almost got him killed too. Like I said, it's all wonderful until something goes really wrong/unexpected.

 

You mean like when you look at your phone (like millions of drivers do everyday) and someone unexpectedly cuts in front of you, something goes wrong and you plow right into them? Right mate 👍