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Oct 13, 2024 | 02:48 PM

#4501

LeX2K

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From: Alberta

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Electronic lock (app controlled) and built in GPS. If it's ever stolen it's useless and can be tracked. When it's electronically locked, the motor is locked and can't even be rolled

That sounds like a challenge.

Oct 13, 2024 | 02:53 PM

#4502

AMIRZA786

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From: California

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeX2K

That sounds like a challenge.

Well it also has a 120 day refund policy if it's stolen

Oct 13, 2024 | 02:57 PM

#4503

LeX2K

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Well it also has a 120 day refund policy if it's stolen

That's cool. What will very likely happen is if someone makes off with it they'll get frustrated and just dump it somewhere. Cost to hack it is much higher than the product lol.

Oct 13, 2024 | 03:05 PM

#4504

AMIRZA786

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Originally Posted by LeX2K

That's cool. What will very likely happen is if someone makes off with it they'll get frustrated and just dump it somewhere. Cost to hack it is much higher than the product lol.

Oddly enough, electric scooters are not the target of thieves probably because they are useless to them and can be tracked, bicycles are. You see guys in the street riding a bike holding on to a second one. My son rides the high speed rail (BART) a lot, and he said people will come on with sometimes three bikes in tow

Oct 14, 2024 | 10:59 AM

#4505

spwolf

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There is a lot of development in Europe happening around more affordable BEVs.

Europeans buy mostly small vehicles as new cars. That means something between Yaris and Corolla in size and could be an CUV version. That will sell in hundreds of thousands.
Pricing for most top 10 vehicles in Europe has been between 15k and 30k.

Currently for 30k you have only few, bad BEVs.

This is changing from next year - there are number of small vehicles coming to market from European manufacturers like Renault and Stellantis (Fiat, Peugot, Citroen, Jeep).
All of them are coming in 25k to 35k range.

Here is list of cars from Paris Motor show:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ris-motor-show

Personally, Renault 4 and Renault 5 are very nice, with google os and integrated charging, as well as really good efficiency. Stellantis is introducing larger batteries but their OS and efficiency sux.

Renault 5 starts at 25k, this is 33k version - got 9/10 from Top gear:
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/renault/5

Oct 15, 2024 | 12:18 AM

#4506

BayeauxLex

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Has anyone performed a battery health check recently? My friend performed one on his ‘22 M3LR. His battery health is 87.8%

Oct 15, 2024 | 01:28 AM

#4507

Bob04

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From: SC

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

Has anyone performed a battery health check recently? My friend performed one on his ‘22 M3LR. His battery health is 87.8%

How did he get it checked? Service menu or by request?

Oct 15, 2024 | 03:37 AM

#4508

Lwerewolf

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From: Sofia

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

My son just bought a Phantom A10 Electric scooter with a 400W motor, 20 mile range for getting from his apartment to his University campus, and around town

Electronic lock (app controlled) and built in GPS. If it's ever stolen it's useless and can be tracked. When it's electronically locked, the motor is locked and can't even be rolled

Can just take it with him given the size and the folding design. With the right backpack...

I'm still more of a bike (bicycle*) person myself, but taking care of one without a house and proper parking infrastructure is kind of annoying - especially if you like said bike and keep it in top shape.

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Oct 15, 2024 | 04:22 AM

#4509

bitkahuna

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

Has anyone performed a battery health check recently? My friend performed one on his ‘22 M3LR. His battery health is 87.8%

that seems low for a 2 year old car. how many miles on it and how/when does your friend charge their vehicle? how much DC fast charging vs AC level 1/2?

Oct 15, 2024 | 06:50 AM

#4510

BayeauxLex

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob04

How did he get it checked? Service menu or by request?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

that seems low for a 2 year old car. how many miles on it and how/when does your friend charge their vehicle? how much DC fast charging vs AC level 1/2?

Service menu and it has 59k. He charges at home. Not sure how often.

Oct 15, 2024 | 10:25 AM

#4511

Allen K

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First Rove charging center open recently in Santa Ana

28 NACS, 12 CCS, 2 CHAdeMO. Also includes a lounge area, snack shop, and car wash. Looks pretty nice!

https://www.rovecharging.com/centers/santa-ana

Oct 15, 2024 | 10:28 AM

#4512

AMIRZA786

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Originally Posted by Allen K

I'm assuming that Tesla has some vested interest in Rove since they have NACS superchargers?

Oct 15, 2024 | 10:37 AM

#4513

Allen K

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Elektrek link warning

https://electrek.co/2024/10/02/sneak...pening-oct-15/

According to them, it's one of the first 3rd party installations

Oct 15, 2024 | 10:42 AM

#4514

AMIRZA786

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen K

Elektrek link warning

https://electrek.co/2024/10/02/sneak...pening-oct-15/

According to them, it's one of the first 3rd party installations

It looks like they are using the v4 Tesla Superchargers (350kW), they either purchased these from Tesla or Tesla installed them, so it looks like Tesla does have some type of financial involvement

Oct 15, 2024 | 11:22 AM

#4515

Allen K

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Yeah from a hardware and network perspective. Day to day will fall under Rove from my understanding.

Side note - just installed a chargepoint to replace the JuiceBox and I didn't appreciate how straightforward the JuiceBox install was. Install the bracket, plug in the 14-50, connect to wifi, done. For the ChargePoint, it was drill the first large screw, mount the unit, screw in the lag screws, wire in the charging cable, connect to wifi.

I also had to mount it higher to stay on the stud because otherwise the 14-50 wouldn't have reached since it was shorter than the JB's cable. But all in all, looks pretty good and only took 15 minutes to unmount the JB and mount the chargepoint