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Lead Lap
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Bit can be dramatic at times 😅
I would advise your friend to have this checked with Tesla. The good news is if the battery pack has a defect or drops to 75 percent before the warranty period (8 years or 120k miles) he will get a brand new battery pack. My friend who has a 2018 M3 LR has lost 6 percent, my boss who has a 2017 Model X has 85 percent capacity at over 100k
I would advise your friend to have this checked with Tesla. The good news is if the battery pack has a defect or drops to 75 percent before the warranty period (8 years or 120k miles) he will get a brand new battery pack. My friend who has a 2018 M3 LR has lost 6 percent, my boss who has a 2017 Model X has 85 percent capacity at over 100k
No. He bought it at beginning of year
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Yeah he’s going over everything before his 60k mile ends as he has a rattle in his passenger seat that’s getting addressed. He mentioned if it dips to 70% he’s eligible for a new battery. He said being at 87% he’s close to normal for initial degradation and it should plateau here.
No. He bought it at beginning of year
No. He bought it at beginning of year
Carmakers have factored in there will be people who regardless charge to 100 percent, for example someone who leases and knows they will be returning the car in 2 or 3 years. My daughter is an example, she charges her Bolt about once a week and no matter how many times I've told her to set to 80 percent, she just won't. Engineering Explained did a video on this
this ioniq 5 (as you know) is a great vehicle. but like we also all know, ev's are evolving FAST so when it comes time, i may go for something available then.
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sure... different users. even if i'm 'renting' a car though i still want to take care of it as best i can, and maybe i'll want to buy it out at the end of the lease.
this ioniq 5 (as you know) is a great vehicle. but like we also all know, ev's are evolving FAST so when it comes time, i may go for something available then.
this ioniq 5 (as you know) is a great vehicle. but like we also all know, ev's are evolving FAST so when it comes time, i may go for something available then.
you said it's a '22 model so let's assume there was 1.5 years of ownership before your friend got it at start of '24 and drove it for 10 months. how many of those 59k mi. has your friend driven (this year).
But in response to the anecdote I posted an article with detailed data on how the friend's Tesla degradation is definitely abnormal.
this 4y old video is relevant though, showing most ev's experience little degradation if treated right. The worst thing someone can do is charge to 100% and not drive the car for days.
https://youtu.be/b4GLzvWuYBo?si=kdiO4oviEmg7GSsC
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Lead Lap
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leave it to you to provide an incomplete poor ev situation anecdote with key details omitted like your friend didn't have the car for all of those 59k miles.
you said it's a '22 model so let's assume there was 1.5 years of ownership before your friend got it at start of '24 and drove it for 10 months. how many of those 59k mi. has your friend driven (this year).
exactly. could have been an uber car, supercharged twice a day.
But in response to the anecdote I posted an article with detailed data on how the friend's Tesla degradation is definitely abnormal.
this 4y old video is relevant though, showing most ev's experience little degradation if treated right. The worst thing someone can do is charge to 100% and not drive the car for days.
https://youtu.be/b4GLzvWuYBo?si=kdiO4oviEmg7GSsC
you said it's a '22 model so let's assume there was 1.5 years of ownership before your friend got it at start of '24 and drove it for 10 months. how many of those 59k mi. has your friend driven (this year).
exactly. could have been an uber car, supercharged twice a day.
But in response to the anecdote I posted an article with detailed data on how the friend's Tesla degradation is definitely abnormal.
this 4y old video is relevant though, showing most ev's experience little degradation if treated right. The worst thing someone can do is charge to 100% and not drive the car for days.
https://youtu.be/b4GLzvWuYBo?si=kdiO4oviEmg7GSsC
I will find out how many miles he put on it.
Lead Lap
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Ok my apologies on my friend’s M3LR. It is a 2021. He bought it with 47k miles. Currently has 59k miles. He bought it from Tesla because Tesla added an extra year and 10k miles to the warranty so 60k mile warranty instead of the original 50k mile warranty. It’s coming back to me because he told me the 2022+ have a faster chip (Ryzen sound familiar). So 2021 model with 87.8% battery doesn’t sound bad at all right. Also it has the acceleration boost. That was a big selling point for him.
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thanks for all the extra info! so let's say 12% loss in 3 years and 59k mi. or roughly 4% a year and 20k mi. per year. still seems a bit high (loss) to me but i'm sure the car is great anyway. your friend is only doing 1k/mo. so i doubt the range loss makes any difference.
i don't think i have a way to check my car's battery health without some kind of equipment.
i don't think i have a way to check my car's battery health without some kind of equipment.
Lead Lap
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My free Tesla made NACS adapter arrived today and it's very solidly made. Haven't used the A2Z at all but I have a long drive next week and switch between the two to see which connect/disconnect process I like better
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thanks for all the extra info! so let's say 12% loss in 3 years and 59k mi. or roughly 4% a year and 20k mi. per year. still seems a bit high (loss) to me but i'm sure the car is great anyway. your friend is only doing 1k/mo. so i doubt the range loss makes any difference.
i don't think i have a way to check my car's battery health without some kind of equipment.
i don't think i have a way to check my car's battery health without some kind of equipment.
I dont know what my 2021 Model 3 loss is, looks fine.
Lexus Test Driver
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I need to get a diagnosis to see what my loss it since it’s been three years. I’m curious since my wife is complaining how the mileage we are getting daily seems lower. I tried to send a message on the app to Tesla but I get a standard message and when I try to send the message anyway I get an error in the app.
Lead Lap
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I need to get a diagnosis to see what my loss it since it’s been three years. I’m curious since my wife is complaining how the mileage we are getting daily seems lower. I tried to send a message on the app to Tesla but I get a standard message and when I try to send the message anyway I get an error in the app.
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It takes awhile, you have to drain the battery fully, including the reserves, then charge to 100 percent. It uses up one full charging cycle. There are 1500 charging cycles