Right, mine don't either. It gets stuffy in there but not really hot no matter how how it is outside.

 

In the heat of summer I can be in the garage detailing the cars, and yeah it’s hot but it’s not overwhelmingly so.

 

This thread is getting a little off track, so I'll pile on.

I live in a Chicago suburb. When it's -10 degrees f and windy outside, my garage dips down to around freezing temps. It has nothing to do with its insulation, but the fact that it's not climate controlled. If your garage is, then it's obvious that preconditioning the interior is a not something you would consider doing. With my ICE vehicles, even though I could open the garage door and warm them up, I never did.

I'm old. I come from the days of hopping in your outside parked car at -10 f, or less, and sucking it up! You kids have it too easy nowadays...

 

I bet you walked 3 miles uphill in the snow both ways too lol

 

4, but who's counting...

 

10 miles, not 3 At least that's what every adult told me when I was growing up

 

You're not old... aren't you about my age? I'm 56... almost 57, but we won't talk about that 😂

 

cars have many attributes besides # cylinders. i love the design of my car.

no but many luxury cars now have noise cancelation built in.

 

Not offended. And not surprised that you have cars that defy science and logic. Just pointing out what's obvious.

 

I do precondition my Rivian all year though. Something about the car being automatically set to my exact perfect temp each day seems almost...luxurious

 

If you weren't offended what I said wouldn't make you angry, it clearly does. Its a feature on a Tesla I know and you guys have a hard time accepting every one of those features isn't incredible and desired by everybody.

My cars are perfectly comfortable and don't need to be preconditioned in my own garage, sorry. If you would take the anger out of it you would understand why logically and scientifically that makes sense. A car is not fully open to the air surrounding it, its sealed up pretty well. So, when its cool inside it takes a long time for it to reach the same temperature as the air surrounding it. Its the same reason why AMIRIZA's car can be 149 degrees inside out in the sun when its probably 90 degrees max outside his house. The car is sealed and the solar load heats up the sealed in air inside it like an oven.

If my car sat in the garage long enough it would eventually be the same temp as the garage air around it, but it doesn't sit there undriven long enough really for that to ever happen.

Pulled the temps this morning, my wife was out in the Mercedes last night so I couldn't do it. Garage is 79 degrees, car is 74 degrees inside having sat there for 12 hours. I set the climate control to 72, so in 12 hours it only got 2 degrees warmer inside than it was when it was shut off. So at that same rate of temp increase absent any solar load it would take it closer to 48 hours to reach a temp in the low 80s and it never sits there that long.

House:



Car interior temp:



Its going to be 83 today, so I will post more readings. My guess is the garage will get into the low 80s and the car will stay about the same temp inside and the delta between the two can be as much as 10 degrees.

Apparently Alan, AJT and bit's cars also "defy science and logic" but we wont talk about that:

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

same here. granted i don't have super cold winters.

 

It's not hard to defy science and logic, I do it all the time.
Making the case for EV luxury. Lol
+1, adding that to the list. 🤓

 

you're approaching troll status. may be just give it a rest. you've made your points, over, and over but there's no need to trash all those who really like teslas.

i think i said my cars are comfortable to get into in my garage, not that they're 10 degrees cooler, or 50 degrees hotter like amirza's outdoor oven.

i agree with you though that car door seals and windows are very good these days (except early teslas, lol) so cars would take quite a bit of time if ever to get to similar temps INSIDE a garage because there's no sunlight (as far as heat) usually penetrating through glass. even then, windows have become better and better at blocking transmitted heat.

 

You claimed your car interior was 15-18 degrees (or more cooler than the temp of your garage). I said that's not possible. I'm not offended, angry, or any other type of emotion. I'm just pointing out that something you said can't be possible. You'll disagree with me, but you can go back and read your posts where you say your garage temp is 85-88 and your car interior is 70 at most. You've had almost 58,000 posts on this forum and never been wrong. Think about that.

And if you could get into a vehicle that is always at a comfortable temp that you control with the touch of a button, I have a hard time believing that 100% of people would not find that desirable. Correction. 99.999999% because you are the outlier. It's not just a Tesla feature. It's a feature I've never had until getting a Tesla, they've perfected the user experience of it, and I like it. I would have a very hard time buying another car without it and I wish my QX80 had it, but I think I missed it by one model year.

PS - your engine is running in the image you posted, so the AC is on. Also, it's 77 outside and 79 in your garage. I'd check the insulation.

 

Yes! We've arrived at what luxury actually is. Do you need preconditioning? Nope you'll get from point A to B just the same without. Luxury feature.