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I have a camera which senses temp in my garage, on the hottest day the temperature within the garage never gets over 85-88 degrees, and the cars are always very comfortable inside, in the 70s at the most. In the winter the coldest it gets in there is about 65 degrees, and same thing the cars are never cold inside.
I have never gotten into any of my cars in my home garage and felt the interior was not a comfortable temp.
I would look at the insulation in your garage...
I have never gotten into any of my cars in my home garage and felt the interior was not a comfortable temp.
I would look at the insulation in your garage...
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
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So you are saying that your garage temp is 85-88 degrees but the interior temp of your car is "in the 70's at most"? OK.. that is some voodoo stuff going on inside those cars then. It's literally impossible for the interior of a car to be cooler than the temperature of the environment its sitting in.
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
Yep just as I suspected, that feature Tesla (and other EV makers) gave us to pre-cool and preheat our cars...useless
BTW, current temperature of my cars interior
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So you are saying that your garage temp is 85-88 degrees but the interior temp of your car is "in the 70's at most"? OK.. that is some voodoo stuff going on inside those cars then. It's literally impossible for the interior of a car to be cooler than the temperature of the environment its sitting in.
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
My garage is not insulated very well and in the winter, it may be a degree or two warmer in the car compared to the garage. Same thing in the summer.
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So you are saying that your garage temp is 85-88 degrees but the interior temp of your car is "in the 70's at most"? OK.. that is some voodoo stuff going on inside those cars then. It's literally impossible for the interior of a car to be cooler than the temperature of the environment its sitting in.
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
This is one of those odd cases where I feel like it's just natural to say "Oh yeah, that would be nice to have a car at a preset temperature any time I want". Instead I'm advised to check the insulation in my garage.
All I can tell you is when I get in my cars when they are parked in my garage, they are always very comfortable inside and don't need to be heated or cooled for me to be comfortable. I can pre-condition the Pacifica without the engine running via the app while its plugged in and it has never occured to me to do that because I don't need to. Don't know what to tell ya...
Parked outside then absolutely I use remote start all the time.
Your cars sit outside and like you showed its 146 degrees in there, so of course in that situation that feature is incredible.
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Have to agree with this - there is no way the difference would be that great between the car's interior temperature and the exterior environment in a closed garage.
My garage is not insulated very well and in the winter, it may be a degree or two warmer in the car compared to the garage. Same thing in the summer.
My garage is not insulated very well and in the winter, it may be a degree or two warmer in the car compared to the garage. Same thing in the summer.
Also depends on how long the car has been sitting there...and how long its been 85 degrees. In my experience at least with my cars they feel cooler inside than the ambient temp in the garage. They are pulled in with the temp set to 70 and it takes time for the temp inside to rise when there isn't any solar load.
These are the current temps in my house, garage is 80 degrees.
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LOL, how could you possibly be offended because I feel my cars don't need to be cooled or heated before I get in them parked inside my garage...
All I can tell you is when I get in my cars when they are parked in my garage, they are always very comfortable inside and don't need to be heated or cooled for me to be comfortable. I can pre-condition the Pacifica without the engine running via the app while its plugged in and it has never occured to me to do that because I don't need to. Don't know what to tell ya...
Parked outside then absolutely I use remote start all the time.
Who said that? I didn't. All I said was my cars stay a comfortable temp in my garage to where I don't feel the need to pre heat or pre cool them.
Your cars sit outside and like you showed its 146 degrees in there, so of course in that situation that feature is incredible.
All I can tell you is when I get in my cars when they are parked in my garage, they are always very comfortable inside and don't need to be heated or cooled for me to be comfortable. I can pre-condition the Pacifica without the engine running via the app while its plugged in and it has never occured to me to do that because I don't need to. Don't know what to tell ya...
Parked outside then absolutely I use remote start all the time.
Who said that? I didn't. All I said was my cars stay a comfortable temp in my garage to where I don't feel the need to pre heat or pre cool them.
Your cars sit outside and like you showed its 146 degrees in there, so of course in that situation that feature is incredible.
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... some buyers are interested in homes (cars) that have some character. Downshifts, rev matching, heel to, grabbing another gear, exhaust sounds, turbo noises, screaming V8s, hitting VTEC, even crackles and pops are imo examples of character. It’s all personal preference and doesn’t make the other inferior.
it's your poor little battery saying "i need a rest!"
but i get your point that with tesla's model 3 being a very fixed set of features, no attempt at being luxurious (not m 3 is 'premium' at least) makes it less interesting to someone such as yourself who loves high end luxury features. but plenty of people absolutely love them, because of their unique set of features compared to other cars, and their low cost of ownership and utility, plus their unmatched smoothness with great torque useful in real life driving.
Some of you are forgetting that a really refined ICE car, the smoothness isn't just from the engine.... it's everything down to the volume ****. Yes, there is nothing like EV torque... but a car like an old Lexus LS460 AMZIRA brought up is so smooth you can do the glass of water trick on the engine. Add in the suspension and everything else that went into that car whose focus of life is to be buttery, and the match is much more legit. It's not even really a match, but then again you can compare anything.
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s-classes are everywhere and pretty identifcal in beverly hills and new york city. doesn't mean they lack 'character' does it?
first this forum isn't about ice vehicles. and besides comparing an lexus flagship with an ev appliance makes no sense.
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Couldn’t possibly care less lol. Just pointing out that I never said what you attributed to me.
If anybody needs an example of the inability to accept anything but praise about these cars it’s the defensiveness over me suggesting my cars don’t need this ability to precondition in my own garage!
If anybody needs an example of the inability to accept anything but praise about these cars it’s the defensiveness over me suggesting my cars don’t need this ability to precondition in my own garage!
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Couldn’t possibly care less lol. Just pointing out that I never said what you attributed to me.
If anybody needs an example of the inability to accept anything but praise about these cars it’s the defensiveness over me suggesting my cars don’t need this ability to precondition in my own garage!
If anybody needs an example of the inability to accept anything but praise about these cars it’s the defensiveness over me suggesting my cars don’t need this ability to precondition in my own garage!
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