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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 05:44 PM
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My friend was finally able to make the 200 mile roadtrip in his M3LR that he hasn’t been able to make in his MYLR without stopping to charge. He said his speed varied from 72-77mph. He started out at 100% (99%) and arrived at the charging station 212 miles away with 15%. Now on his way back home on the same drive his navigation is telling him to stay under 75mph to reach destination (charging destination) then from there back home. He started out with 79% going back home.

Only thing, the speed limit is 75mph for majority of the drive. This is the same highway where I’m towing 80+mph so I assume he was in the right lane for entire 200 miles. Traffic flows at a good pace on this route.
Model 3 is smaller and lighter than the Model Y
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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Model 3 is smaller and lighter than the Model Y
Yeah he told me his 3 and Y have the same battery.

Traffic moves pretty good on this highway. A Lexus semi passed me and I was running 80+mph towing.

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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 08:20 PM
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https://carsandbids.com/auctions/37p...-grand-touring

Look at how much this 2yr old 8k mile Lucid sold for.

Wonder how much this 2013 Model S will go for

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KVz...la-model-s-p85
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Says it has the longest range out of all EV trucks
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Silverado EV range test

Says it has the longest range out of all EV trucks
The midgate feature is one of the coolest and most useful feature I've seen in a while. I love Rivians but that feature would make me go with the Silverado.
EDit: I didn't even know the avalanche had this feature. Makes me want an avalanche.
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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200 kWh battery will do that.

At 70mph
Rivan: 273 Wh/mi
Cybertruck: 272 Wh/mi
Chevy: 378 Wh/mi

GM needs to figure out better efficiency.

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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Silverado EV range test

Says it has the longest range out of all EV trucks
I mean crap, it better....it has up to a 200 kWh battery pack LoL 🤣. That's going to mean it's HEAVY, take double the time to charge, and going to be priced pretty high. That said, looks wise I prefer this over the Cyber Truck's design, which I can only say is not appealing to me.

It's like doubling the size of a Dodge Demon gas tank and saying it has good range
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 11:59 AM
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It's no more efficient than any existing EV truck. It just has a massive battery. It would be more notable if it could deliver that better range through efficiency, not extra capacity, weight and cost. Still, a good choice if you need it. Keen to see one out in the wild.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I mean crap, it better....it has up to a 200 kWh battery pack LoL 🤣. That's going to mean it's HEAVY, take double the time to charge, and going to be priced pretty high. That said, looks wise I prefer this over the Cyber Truck's design, which I can only say is not appealing to me.

It's like doubling the size of a Dodge Demon gas tank and saying it has good range
It actually charges relatively quick compared to all other EV trucks it stays well over 300 kwh up to 40%. See charging curve below. Other 3 lines are cybertruck, Rivian and f150.


To put it into perspective. For each to gain 150 miles:
1. Lightning - 31 mins
2. R1T - 23 mins
3. Cybertruck -21 mins
4. Silverado - 15 mins
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It's heavier so worse efficiency but seems to be the best ev "work truck" on the market.
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It's no more efficient than any existing EV truck. It just has a massive battery. It would be more notable if it could deliver that better range through efficiency, not extra capacity, weight and cost. Still, a good choice if you need it. Keen to see one out in the wild.
No matter how efficient you make a EV pick up, it will always have terrible towing efficiency. The only way to overcome that is a larger battery.
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 12:21 PM
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EV does not have terrible towing efficiency there is simply not enough energy to drag around a giant weight. Raw efficiency is much better than a gas engine.
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EV does not have terrible towing efficiency there is simply not enough energy to drag around a giant weight. Raw efficiency is much better than a gas engine.
You mean not enough capacity. If you could cram 100 kWh energy in a 50 kWh sized battery pack, you would more than double the range/towing capacity. That's the big issue that needs to get solved. That and faster charging
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
You mean not enough capacity.
There is not enough juice in the battery pack is that better? capacity is the total amount of energy stored.

This is pretty easy to illustrate since we have the Tesla Semi to compare. A diesel tractor pulling 80,000 pounds gets at best 8mpg Tesla Semi doing the same 18mpg. Given diesel fuel has more energy per volume vs gas then comparing towing with a gas engine vs. EV gives the EV about 2.5x better efficiency.

What is needed is better energy density which will happen should be able to increase it by 50% before the improvement curve starts to drop sharply.

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Originally Posted by Blaze876
It actually charges relatively quick compared to all other EV trucks it stays well over 300 kwh up to 40%. See charging curve below. Other 3 lines are cybertruck, Rivian and f150.


To put it into perspective. For each to gain 150 miles:
1. Lightning - 31 mins
2. R1T - 23 mins
3. Cybertruck -21 mins
4. Silverado - 15 mins
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It's heavier so worse efficiency but seems to be the best ev "work truck" on the market.
That's an excellent charging curve. I'm not personally against a giant battery pack, just I'm afraid what the cost will be. But until they can solve the issue with more energy dense packs, this would have to do
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
There is not enough juice in the battery pack is that better?

This is pretty easy to illustrate since we have the Tesla Semi to compare. A diesel tractor pulling 80,000 pounds gets at best 8mpg Tesla Semi doing the same 18mpg. Given diesel fuel has more energy per volume vs gas then comparing towing with a gas engine vs. EV gives the EV about 2.5x better efficiency.

What is needed is better energy density which will happen should be able to increase it by 50% before the improvement curve starts to drop sharply.
That's exactly what I'm saying. And yes, they need to work on getting it more efficient until that breakthrough happens
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