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So, at 37mph, I can go 452 miles in 100 degree heat? Good to know!
Why was a 5 year old Model S included in this data?
Last summer I drove to SoCal in just a little under 100F, and overall still managed to average 28 kwh per 100 miles over a 390 mile trip. I believe I did the full calculations in my Model Y thread. You have to go through two mountain passes, so I probably was getting 235 miles of range, as I was driving 80 MPH at least 60 percent of the trip
We're in the last gasps of Fisker unless something dramatic happens
The American EV startup reduced the selling price of the Ocean's most expensive trim, known as the Extreme, by $24,000, while the entry-level version now carries an MSRP of just $24,999, effectively making the Ocean the cheapest new EV in the U.S., undercutting the Nissan Leaf by more than $3,000.
On another note, reason #3 why I can't go back from BEV's:
I'm heading to work on the freeway, my exit is coming up in .05 miles. I'm two lanes over to the left, and there are a line of cars in both lanes to the right driving like grandma. When I hit my signal, they all decide to tighten up any gaps, I guess they haven't had their coffee yet . My exit is coming up quick, and in the very left lane there are a line of cars coming, so I have to make a quick decision...miss my exit, or go around. So I put my foot down half way, and silently with no hesitation, I accelerate quickly, hit the left lane, and safely pass all the traffic to the right, and safely make it to my exit in plenty of time with plenty of space. A few people saw what I was trying to do and tried to show me karma for cutting, but instant torque wins the day .
I'm curious how FSD would have handled that. I'm assuming it would have just kept the car in the right lane to avoid this scenario
FSD would've moved you to the right a mile or more before the exit. Haven't tested the latest version as I've only driven my wife's 3 on local streets recently
I'm heading to work on the freeway, my exit is coming up in .05 miles. I'm two lanes over to the left, and there are a line of cars in both lanes to the right driving like grandma. When I hit my signal, they all decide to tighten up any gaps, I guess they haven't had their coffee yet . My exit is coming up quick, and in the very left lane there are a line of cars coming, so I have to make a quick decision...miss my exit, or go around. So I put my foot down half way, and silently with no hesitation, I accelerate quickly, hit the left lane, and safely pass all the traffic to the right, and safely make it to my exit in plenty of time with plenty of space.
So, you're one of those people who my wife curses out when they keep to the left even though they know their exit is coming and then surprise and scare people when they suddenly veer right.
So, you're one of those people who my wife curses out when they keep to the left even though they know their exit is coming and then surprise and scare people when they suddenly veer right.
Well, not really. I don't do this unless traffic on the right is really slow for no reason, which is what left lanes are for, passing. And I never cut people off. In the case of this morning, people didn't want to let me in. I always show people courtesy, if someone signals, I let them in unless it's not safe to do so. In other words, I'm a courteous driver that never makes unsafe lane changes, never cuts people off, and never tailgate. The last accident I had was in 1989, and it was because someone ran a red light and made a left turn in front me
So, you're one of those people who my wife curses out when they keep to the left even though they know their exit is coming and then surprise and scare people when they suddenly veer right.
That was not at all what I took from Amirza's message. I did, however, take something very specific from yours.
Hyundai reveals ambitious $50 billion investment to secure a top 3 spot in the EV market
Hyundai plans +$50 billion investment amid EV shift
Hyundai’s new investment is to “secure future growth engines,” including EV tech and software-defined vehicles (SDVs).
Over half of the investment (35.5 trillion won/ $26 billion) will be used for R&D on EV infrastructure and manufacturing to “dominate core technologies.” Another 31.1 trillion won will be used for R&D for EVs, SDVs, and battery tech.
Hyundai will also use the funding to expand EV-specific factories, IT capabilities, and joint investments in affiliates.
The company will first make a “large investment” in a new EV-specific factory. In Q2, Kia’s EV plant in Gwangmyeong will be complete, enabling Kia’s affordable EV3 to go on sale in Korea and overseas.
In the second half of 2025, Kia’s Hwaseong EV plant will begin producing custom PBV electric vehicles.
Hyundai’s new Ulsan EV plant will begin production in the first quarter of 2026, starting with the “Ultra-large” Genesis electric SUV. Once up and running, the plant is expected to produce 200,000 EVs annually.
Genesis unveiled its first full-size luxury electric SUV, the Neolun Concept, earlier this week. The sleek electric SUV will serve as Hyundai’s tech beacon.
Hyundai’s luxury brand also announced a new high-performance brand, Magma, that will rival Mercedes-AMG.
The Korean automaker, currently the third-largest globally (including Kia and Genesis), aims to be a top-three EV maker by 2030.
By then, Hyundai plans to have 31 electric vehicles with 1.51 million annual domestic EV production capacity. Hyundai is already seeing success with its dedicated EV platform (E-GMP) underpinning the IONIQ 5, IONIQ 6, Kia EV6, and Genesis GV60.
Hyundai is set to unveil its first three-row electric SUV, the IONIQ 9, later this year. Ahead of its debut, we got a sneak peek of the EV testing in public.
The warranties they sell at Dealerships are basically junk, at least in my experience. I've never been able to use them, full of exclusions and deductibles they don't tell you about. With Tesla, you really don't need an Extended warranty, the most important one is the Battery/Drivetrain warranty which is 8 year/120K. If I do get the extended warranty (which is directly from Tesla), it would only be for peace of mine.
In 30,000 miles, I've only had one issue with my Polestar, it had a defective Battery Disconnect Unit which affected Fast charging. That issue came up within the first few thousand miles. Since replacing it, the car has been issue free
Going back to this post regarding extended warranties sold by Stealerships, the same rule applies for prepaid Maint plans pushed on to customers:
Back in 2020, Solis bought a certified pre-owned 2019 RAV4 from Santa Margarita Toyota in Rancho Santa Margarita, California. She added the optional ToyotaCare Plus maintenance plan that was valid for five years or up to 55,000 miles, financing the $1,025 coverage along with the vehicle itself through Toyota Motor Credit in a 72-month loan with 4.7 percent interest.
According to the lawsuit, she bought the maintenance plan based on the fact the dealer told her it would save money. From Automotive News:
Teresa Solis’ Southern District of California lawsuit did not count as defendants either of the California dealerships mentioned in her allegations, though the case involves 100 unknown “Doe Defendants” to be named later. She claims a Toyota dealership other than where she purchased the contract skipped four of the services and charged her for filters that were supposed to be covered.
Solis’ case accuses the defendants of one count of unjust enrichment, one count of fraud, one count of negligent representation, one count of violating the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, one count of violating the Lanham Act, two counts of violating the California Business and Professions Code and one count of breach of contract.
She also seeks class-action status for everyone who purchased a maintenance plan within 90 days of buying a vehicle from the defendants.
Here’s a breakdown of the service she got and what the dealership told her:
Solis was allegedly told the plan covered seven regular services and three major services occurring at 5,000-mile intervals starting at the 10,000-mile mark — her vehicle had 6,801 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase — and continuing through 55,000 miles. She could redeem the coverage for major services at 15,000, 30,000 and 45,000 miles.
“Toyota told Plaintiff that each Regular Service typically costs $100, and Major Services cost $400,” Solis’ lawsuit stated. “Thus, Defendants represented that Plaintiff’s Maintenance Plan was valued at $1,900.”
But when she brought the RAV4 to Toyota Carlsbad in Carlsbad, Calif., for the 20,000-mile regular service in July 2022, the store allegedly conducted the 30,000-mile major service and billed Toyota only $210. If she had bought the work at the retail price charged consumers, the bill would only have been $380 — also less than the purported $400 the Santa Margarita store had indicated, according to the lawsuit.
At 29,500 miles, Solis brought the RAV4 in for the 30,000-mile major service but allegedly only received the 35,000-mile regular service. Toyota Carlsbad allegedly only charged Toyota $30 and would have only charged her $43 if she paid retail — both less than the $100 she had been told.
“Plaintiff started to recognize a consistent pattern whenever she brought her car in for service,” the lawsuit stated. “Often, the dealership would skip scheduled services and bill Toyota amounts less than the value Plaintiff was told when she purchased the Maintenance Plan. She also realized the cash price for her scheduled services was less than the value Plaintiff was told by Defendants when she purchased the Maintenance Plan.”
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Solis’ lawsuit estimates she’d only have paid between $800 and $900 compared with the $1,900 quoted. Solis’ attorney, John Ternieden, an associate at Singleton Schreiber in Sacramento, Calif., said in an email to Automotive News that “not all regular services were the cash price of $43 .... nor were all major services $380.” Other major services were less than $200 each, he wrote.
“In total, between the seven services our client actually received (which Toyota told her represented the entirety of her plan), the actual cash price would have been less than the price of the maintenance plan,” Ternieden wrote in an email March 11.
The lawsuit said Toyota Carlsbad skipped the regular services for 20,000, 25,000, 40,000 and 55,000 miles that were supposed to be covered by the plan.
The lawsuit said Solis asked the service department about the lower-than-claimed charges and the premature service, and a representative said that “everything was being done as it should, and that Plaintiff was getting exactly what she paid for in the Maintenance Plan.”
At the 45,000-mile mark, the dealership told Solis she only had one more service remaining, not the two she expected, and it said she needed to pay for cabin and air filters even though those expenses were supposed to be included, the lawsuit said.
Even if Solis received all 10 services she was due under the plan, the $1,025 coverage would still have cost more than paying for the work retail, Ternieden said.
Usually, prepaid maintenance plans give buyers a bit of a discount over buying each service as you go, but it looks like that was certainly not the case in this situation.
It’ll be interesting to see if more folks come out of the woodwork saying they didn’t get what they paid for.
. My exit is coming up quick, and in the very left lane there are a line of cars coming, so I have to make a quick decision...miss my exit, or go around. So I put my foot down half way, and silently with no hesitation, I accelerate quickly, hit the left lane, and safely pass all the traffic to the right, and safely make it to my exit in plenty of time with plenty of space. A few people saw what I was trying to do and tried to show me karma for cutting, but instant torque wins the day 
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