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That sounds like a challenge.Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Electronic lock (app controlled) and built in GPS. If it's ever stolen it's useless and can be tracked. When it's electronically locked, the motor is locked and can't even be rolled
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Well it also has a 120 day refund policy if it's stolen Originally Posted by LeX2K
That sounds like a challenge.

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That's cool. What will very likely happen is if someone makes off with it they'll get frustrated and just dump it somewhere. Cost to hack it is much higher than the product lol.Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Well it also has a 120 day refund policy if it's stolen
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Oddly enough, electric scooters are not the target of thieves probably because they are useless to them and can be tracked, bicycles are. You see guys in the street riding a bike holding on to a second one. My son rides the high speed rail (BART) a lot, and he said people will come on with sometimes three bikes in towOriginally Posted by LeX2K
That's cool. What will very likely happen is if someone makes off with it they'll get frustrated and just dump it somewhere. Cost to hack it is much higher than the product lol.
There is a lot of development in Europe happening around more affordable BEVs.
Europeans buy mostly small vehicles as new cars. That means something between Yaris and Corolla in size and could be an CUV version. That will sell in hundreds of thousands.
Pricing for most top 10 vehicles in Europe has been between 15k and 30k.
Currently for 30k you have only few, bad BEVs.
This is changing from next year - there are number of small vehicles coming to market from European manufacturers like Renault and Stellantis (Fiat, Peugot, Citroen, Jeep).
All of them are coming in 25k to 35k range.
Here is list of cars from Paris Motor show:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ris-motor-show
Personally, Renault 4 and Renault 5 are very nice, with google os and integrated charging, as well as really good efficiency. Stellantis is introducing larger batteries but their OS and efficiency sux.
Renault 5 starts at 25k, this is 33k version - got 9/10 from Top gear:
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/renault/5
Europeans buy mostly small vehicles as new cars. That means something between Yaris and Corolla in size and could be an CUV version. That will sell in hundreds of thousands.
Pricing for most top 10 vehicles in Europe has been between 15k and 30k.
Currently for 30k you have only few, bad BEVs.
This is changing from next year - there are number of small vehicles coming to market from European manufacturers like Renault and Stellantis (Fiat, Peugot, Citroen, Jeep).
All of them are coming in 25k to 35k range.
Here is list of cars from Paris Motor show:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ris-motor-show
Personally, Renault 4 and Renault 5 are very nice, with google os and integrated charging, as well as really good efficiency. Stellantis is introducing larger batteries but their OS and efficiency sux.
Renault 5 starts at 25k, this is 33k version - got 9/10 from Top gear:
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/renault/5
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Has anyone performed a battery health check recently? My friend performed one on his ‘22 M3LR. His battery health is 87.8%
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How did he get it checked? Service menu or by request?Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Has anyone performed a battery health check recently? My friend performed one on his ‘22 M3LR. His battery health is 87.8%
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Electronic lock (app controlled) and built in GPS. If it's ever stolen it's useless and can be tracked. When it's electronically locked, the motor is locked and can't even be rolled
Can just take it with him given the size and the folding design. With the right backpack...Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
My son just bought a Phantom A10 Electric scooter with a 400W motor, 20 mile range for getting from his apartment to his University campus, and around townElectronic lock (app controlled) and built in GPS. If it's ever stolen it's useless and can be tracked. When it's electronically locked, the motor is locked and can't even be rolled
I'm still more of a bike (bicycle*) person myself, but taking care of one without a house and proper parking infrastructure is kind of annoying - especially if you like said bike and keep it in top shape.
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that seems low for a 2 year old car. how many miles on it and how/when does your friend charge their vehicle? how much DC fast charging vs AC level 1/2?Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Has anyone performed a battery health check recently? My friend performed one on his ‘22 M3LR. His battery health is 87.8%
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Service menu and it has 59k. He charges at home. Not sure how often. Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that seems low for a 2 year old car. how many miles on it and how/when does your friend charge their vehicle? how much DC fast charging vs AC level 1/2?
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First Rove charging center open recently in Santa Ana
28 NACS, 12 CCS, 2 CHAdeMO. Also includes a lounge area, snack shop, and car wash. Looks pretty nice!
https://www.rovecharging.com/centers/santa-ana
28 NACS, 12 CCS, 2 CHAdeMO. Also includes a lounge area, snack shop, and car wash. Looks pretty nice!
https://www.rovecharging.com/centers/santa-ana
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28 NACS, 12 CCS, 2 CHAdeMO. Also includes a lounge area, snack shop, and car wash. Looks pretty nice!
https://www.rovecharging.com/centers/santa-ana
I'm assuming that Tesla has some vested interest in Rove since they have NACS superchargers?Originally Posted by Allen K
First Rove charging center open recently in Santa Ana28 NACS, 12 CCS, 2 CHAdeMO. Also includes a lounge area, snack shop, and car wash. Looks pretty nice!
https://www.rovecharging.com/centers/santa-ana
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Elektrek link warning
https://electrek.co/2024/10/02/sneak...pening-oct-15/
According to them, it's one of the first 3rd party installations
https://electrek.co/2024/10/02/sneak...pening-oct-15/
According to them, it's one of the first 3rd party installations
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https://electrek.co/2024/10/02/sneak...pening-oct-15/
According to them, it's one of the first 3rd party installations
It looks like they are using the v4 Tesla Superchargers (350kW), they either purchased these from Tesla or Tesla installed them, so it looks like Tesla does have some type of financial involvementOriginally Posted by Allen K
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https://electrek.co/2024/10/02/sneak...pening-oct-15/
According to them, it's one of the first 3rd party installations
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Yeah from a hardware and network perspective. Day to day will fall under Rove from my understanding.
Side note - just installed a chargepoint to replace the JuiceBox and I didn't appreciate how straightforward the JuiceBox install was. Install the bracket, plug in the 14-50, connect to wifi, done. For the ChargePoint, it was drill the first large screw, mount the unit, screw in the lag screws, wire in the charging cable, connect to wifi.
I also had to mount it higher to stay on the stud because otherwise the 14-50 wouldn't have reached since it was shorter than the JB's cable. But all in all, looks pretty good and only took 15 minutes to unmount the JB and mount the chargepoint
Side note - just installed a chargepoint to replace the JuiceBox and I didn't appreciate how straightforward the JuiceBox install was. Install the bracket, plug in the 14-50, connect to wifi, done. For the ChargePoint, it was drill the first large screw, mount the unit, screw in the lag screws, wire in the charging cable, connect to wifi.
I also had to mount it higher to stay on the stud because otherwise the 14-50 wouldn't have reached since it was shorter than the JB's cable. But all in all, looks pretty good and only took 15 minutes to unmount the JB and mount the chargepoint








