As long as your overall mix is consistent, it should be fairly accurate. If you do a couple tanks of all urban gridlock driving followed by a couple tanks of 100% highway, you'll have issues. But if most tanks are for example, 70% city and 30% highway (or any other relative mix), the prediction should be at least close.

 

I used to really like Michelins. But since then I’ve changed my tune on them.

 

From my experience, Michelins always have the following going for them.

a) They use quality compounds, so they don't have issues with dry rotting, cracking, ripping threads, premature hardening.
b) Their tires run true round, so never any balancing issues, or wheel hopping issue due to tires being out of round.

Other qualities depend on a lot of factors, mainly the type of tire and purpose. One should never go by tirerack reviews when deciding on tire selection - most of the reviews are by idiots who a) can't afford Michelins, so they bad mouth them while buying Kumho or some other garbage, or b) from people that just replaced completely worn out tires with whatever new tires, so of course any new tire is going to feel impressive in comparison.

Here is a photo of 1.5 year old Pirelli on my wifes car vs 4 year old Michelin on my car. The Pirelli is dry rotted and looks like garbage (where its being sent to today), and the Michelin still looks perfect.

 

Just meant to be a guideline. One thing I have found thats interesting. I have always displayed range on all my cars, but I don't in the S560. You can't display range and the audio info at the same time, and if you dont display the audio info you can't skip tracks. So, I don't show the range.

I find that I have looked at the range for so long, I get surprised that I am out of fuel because I don't routinely look at the gauge!

Their tires are very round, but other companies have improved a lot in this scenario. In all the tires I have ever bought, I only ever got one tire that had to be replaced because it was out of round. and in the case of dry rotting my tires never get old enough to dry rot before they wear out, so thats a non issue for me.

Or you have people like me who have enough money to buy whatever they could possibly want and just haven't been that impressed with Michelins Michelins aren't that much more expensive that people aren't able to afford them. Like I said the cost difference was about $200.

You also have to separate the TireRack TESTING, and buyer reviews. I ignore the buyer reviews, but their testing like I posted above are objective comparison tests that they themselves conduct on test courses, those are extremely valuable.

That plus talking to many people who have had all these tires on the same car I have, the Michelins are firmer and louder than the Continental DWS 06+ or the Pirellis I ordered, and there is chatter that the Continentals get louder as they get to about 10k miles, thats why I went with the Pirellis.

 

Contis are generally loud, my friend and I bought our M2s at roughly the same time - I won the lottery and mine came with Michelins, but he lost the lottery and got Contis. His tires were substantially louder than mine, very noticeable, and got louder and louder as they aged.

Years ago I had a set of tires, I believe they were Goodyears, they were marketed as purposely made to be as quiet as possible. Indeed they were, but I was not too impressed with traction.

 

I had some Continental ControlContact Sport A/S tires on the GTI when I bought it. I switched over to Goodyear Eagle Exhilarate (all-season high-performance tire), and they were noticeably quieter, particularly on deceleration. They gripped better, too. I think that was just newer tire technology talking.

I am on the fence about what tires to get for the wife's car when her run-flats are worn. I was originally thinking the DWS06+ would be a good fit, but now that I think about it, maybe I'd rather stick with what I know with those Goodyears. I'd say to run a winter/summer combo, but she drives mainly for work, so it may be wasted on this car, with our mild winters.

 

Are you sure you got the real Pirelli? Lol. This is how mine looks after about similar time and 20K+. I'm a fan of Michelin and it was a requirement for all my Lexus purchases. But I really don't have complaint about these Pirelli.

 

DWS06 are excellent.


Yeah, real Pirelli, unless BMW is in the business of putting on counterfeit tires on their cars, lol. I had them twice on a 2017 X6M and on 2021 X6M, both were crappy. These are the ultra high performance Pirellis.

 

Michelins also seem to be insanely well balanced, I didn't need weights for two of my wheels somehow and the other two only needed 1-3 vs the usual 6-10. They are smooth as glass out to 130 on the 460 and 160 in the A8

Goodyear has amazing steering feel, if I could get that type of feel in the Michelins that would be the perfect tire.

 

Needless to say, I am going Michelin PS4S on the IS 350... it deserves to have grippy tires. I did think for a minute about doing some UHP all-season tires, but I've honestly loved having proper summer tires - even if the Bridgestone Potenza S001L is not the most high-performing tire, it's still a better tire on a back road when compared to my average all-season performance tire. Since I work from home, I am not super concerned about winters here, where it rarely stays below 40 degrees for long.

 

Anybody part of the Obsessed Garage Facebook group? Guy on there just bought a barn find 1995 LS400 with 7,500 miles!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/obsessedgarage/permalink/3167315603517154/

 

Holy crap. I need it, it's the same age as me lol!

 

Could I impose for a pic if available?
If not that's ok.
I don't have FB, wife does it for family sometimes but that's her laptop and her account.

 

Yep, thats another sign of quality, miniman wheel weights with Michelin, a few times I had Michelins that did not need wheel weights at all.

 

Saw this cool thing. Nice driver Those vans are really functional