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'08 gs450h.
Some other models have... uhh... practically rebuildable height sensors - land cruisers, mostly. This one is welded/glued/whatever plastic. Anyways, haven't pulled it apart yet, waiting for the issue to manifest again so that I can see live which sensor is acting up in the first place. Still, with the welded ones, most of the time it appears to be a connector water sealing failure.
Some other models have... uhh... practically rebuildable height sensors - land cruisers, mostly. This one is welded/glued/whatever plastic. Anyways, haven't pulled it apart yet, waiting for the issue to manifest again so that I can see live which sensor is acting up in the first place. Still, with the welded ones, most of the time it appears to be a connector water sealing failure.
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Yeah they did.
I stopped by the dealer today just while I was running around, $9K markup. I wouldn't pay the markup, for $62K I would get an Infiniti QX60 or something.
If they are going to ramrod customers in the pooper, at least they can put the sticker on rightside up...clowns.
I stopped by the dealer today just while I was running around, $9K markup. I wouldn't pay the markup, for $62K I would get an Infiniti QX60 or something.
If they are going to ramrod customers in the pooper, at least they can put the sticker on rightside up...clowns.
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A friend of mine just bought a Telluride a couple weeks ago. He contacted a bunch of dealers around me and all wanted at least a couple grand markup and I told him not to do it since he didn’t need a car, only wanted one. He finally found a dealer that wasn’t marking it up at Jones Kia in Bel Air. I’m sure if you called around there will be others that are selling at MSRP.
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Hmm. Good thought on rebuildable sensors. My 4R height sensors finally started to fail. There were corroded. Parts were so hard to find. OEM was too much so I junked the who air rear and went with aftermarket springs. Land Cruiser wasn’t this way, they used a hydraulic system so maybe.
) but it should practically last the lifetime of the vehicle. Of course, if you weren't really using the air sus in the first place...
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Actually, it's helped by the lack of the zigzag. Most Toyota (and Lexus) products of that period used a fore-aft PRNDL lever with a green N for Neutral and an orange R for reverse. A few GM products that were rebadged Toyotas also used that system.
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Right. Just keep going on the circle you will get back to your departure instead of going back. Lol. I'm going to rotate to see. Still have some meat to burn too.
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Like when we were kids riding the bus and thought if we all shift over to the right side of the bus in the middle of the driver making a left turn, we could make the bus tip over. We never tried it though....
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When you're on small planes, yes, they ask you to seat at certain spots depending on your weight vs. others to keep the plane balanced.
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I bet that original shifter was very, very nice to use, and solid. Regarding interior assembly, LS500 comes apart one handed in 30 seconds, while LS430 getting the dash off is a true project.
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I bet that original shifter was very, very nice to use, and solid. Regarding interior assembly, LS500 comes apart one handed in 30 seconds, while LS430 getting the dash off is a true project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnMo5oMx_44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSL2xijb8yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvvRNaMKLOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnMo5oMx_44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSL2xijb8yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvvRNaMKLOw
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Just so I understand...high difficulty and therefore extremely high cost to service is now a desirable trait in a luxury car?
I mean....8 hours of labor to remove and reinstall the engine/transmission of a mid-engine exotic car for major service, I sort of get. But a similar amount of effort to remove/reinstall the dashboard to access something like a blower motor is somehow a good thing?
I mean....8 hours of labor to remove and reinstall the engine/transmission of a mid-engine exotic car for major service, I sort of get. But a similar amount of effort to remove/reinstall the dashboard to access something like a blower motor is somehow a good thing?