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Racer
Joined: Jan 2019
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From: Sofia
Apparently the code for a malfunctioning height sensor doesn't indicate which one it is (B2416, GWS191). Steps to be annoyed:
1) Wash car, heavy snow foam presoak around the wheel arch area
2) Drive next evening, notice that your lights seem off
3) Stop at destination and note that the low beams are up in the air
4) Pull AFS fuse (headlight level fuse, something something)
5) Be puzzled that there's no warning on the dash
6) Go home, connect techstream, put fuse back in, despair that everything is acting normally
7) Check the DTC page, not that there's a code for a height sensor
8) Note that it doesn't say which one (no subcode, no freeze frame data)
9) Pick your emotional state :P
On that note - cleanest way to repair a wiring harness? Toyota says (or used to say) "crimp and wrap with tape", Mercedes says "solder shrink" (TE raychem) and I'm kinda leaning towards the latter as of late. New connectors, obviously. Suspecting the rear height sensor as I've already done the front (& packed the connector full of contact grease ^_^).
1) Wash car, heavy snow foam presoak around the wheel arch area
2) Drive next evening, notice that your lights seem off
3) Stop at destination and note that the low beams are up in the air
4) Pull AFS fuse (headlight level fuse, something something)
5) Be puzzled that there's no warning on the dash
6) Go home, connect techstream, put fuse back in, despair that everything is acting normally
7) Check the DTC page, not that there's a code for a height sensor
8) Note that it doesn't say which one (no subcode, no freeze frame data)
9) Pick your emotional state :P
On that note - cleanest way to repair a wiring harness? Toyota says (or used to say) "crimp and wrap with tape", Mercedes says "solder shrink" (TE raychem) and I'm kinda leaning towards the latter as of late. New connectors, obviously. Suspecting the rear height sensor as I've already done the front (& packed the connector full of contact grease ^_^).
Pole Position
Joined: Sep 2002
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From: New York
In other news, I think I may order a Telluride to replace the Pacifica. There is a dealer in Ohio that people order them from with no markup, and it takes 8-10 months. That way I can decide if I want it when it comes in, which will coincide with the end of the lease on the Pacifica.
I may just keep the Pacifica and buy it out of the lease. I’m not buying another minivan, if my wife insists she has to have a minivan we will keep this one. It only has 22,000 miles on it.
I’ve looked at a lot of vehicles. The Telluride/Palisade really is an incredible combination of interior room and exterior size. I would love a GLS, but I just can’t justify spending $95,000 for one when my wife drives it primarily and she gets no enjoyment from a car. I think she will appreciate the smaller exterior dimensions of the Telluride, and it has all the driving aids we both want and the space we need. At MSRP of like $54k it’s a screaming deal.
I may just keep the Pacifica and buy it out of the lease. I’m not buying another minivan, if my wife insists she has to have a minivan we will keep this one. It only has 22,000 miles on it.
I’ve looked at a lot of vehicles. The Telluride/Palisade really is an incredible combination of interior room and exterior size. I would love a GLS, but I just can’t justify spending $95,000 for one when my wife drives it primarily and she gets no enjoyment from a car. I think she will appreciate the smaller exterior dimensions of the Telluride, and it has all the driving aids we both want and the space we need. At MSRP of like $54k it’s a screaming deal.
Muncie in Indiana was doing Costco pricing before and during the pandemic so obviously their backlog is about 8-10 months. Their extended warranty was more reasonable too.
The only issue that comes up on some people's rides is a faint driveline vibration they report "feeling" at 65-75mph. Otherwise the car is solid.
And some people don't like the Lego front bumper too much.
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From: ON/NY
Apparently the code for a malfunctioning height sensor doesn't indicate which one it is (B2416, GWS191). Steps to be annoyed:
1) Wash car, heavy snow foam presoak around the wheel arch area
2) Drive next evening, notice that your lights seem off
3) Stop at destination and note that the low beams are up in the air
4) Pull AFS fuse (headlight level fuse, something something)
5) Be puzzled that there's no warning on the dash
6) Go home, connect techstream, put fuse back in, despair that everything is acting normally
7) Check the DTC page, not that there's a code for a height sensor
8) Note that it doesn't say which one (no subcode, no freeze frame data)
9) Pick your emotional state :P
On that note - cleanest way to repair a wiring harness? Toyota says (or used to say) "crimp and wrap with tape", Mercedes says "solder shrink" (TE raychem) and I'm kinda leaning towards the latter as of late. New connectors, obviously. Suspecting the rear height sensor as I've already done the front (& packed the connector full of contact grease ^_^).
1) Wash car, heavy snow foam presoak around the wheel arch area
2) Drive next evening, notice that your lights seem off
3) Stop at destination and note that the low beams are up in the air
4) Pull AFS fuse (headlight level fuse, something something)
5) Be puzzled that there's no warning on the dash
6) Go home, connect techstream, put fuse back in, despair that everything is acting normally
7) Check the DTC page, not that there's a code for a height sensor
8) Note that it doesn't say which one (no subcode, no freeze frame data)
9) Pick your emotional state :P
On that note - cleanest way to repair a wiring harness? Toyota says (or used to say) "crimp and wrap with tape", Mercedes says "solder shrink" (TE raychem) and I'm kinda leaning towards the latter as of late. New connectors, obviously. Suspecting the rear height sensor as I've already done the front (& packed the connector full of contact grease ^_^).
what Toyota is this?
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Excellent choice. People who own it swear by it. I can't convince my wife to opt in to the captain's chairs in the back. Otherwise, that would be our top choice too.
Muncie in Indiana was doing Costco pricing before and during the pandemic so obviously their backlog is about 8-10 months. Their extended warranty was more reasonable too.
The only issue that comes up on some people's rides is a faint driveline vibration they report "feeling" at 65-75mph. Otherwise the car is solid.
And some people don't like the Lego front bumper too much.
Muncie in Indiana was doing Costco pricing before and during the pandemic so obviously their backlog is about 8-10 months. Their extended warranty was more reasonable too.
The only issue that comes up on some people's rides is a faint driveline vibration they report "feeling" at 65-75mph. Otherwise the car is solid.
And some people don't like the Lego front bumper too much.
Racer
Joined: Jan 2019
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From: Sofia
'08 gs450h.
Some other models have... uhh... practically rebuildable height sensors - land cruisers, mostly. This one is welded/glued/whatever plastic. Anyways, haven't pulled it apart yet, waiting for the issue to manifest again so that I can see live which sensor is acting up in the first place. Still, with the welded ones, most of the time it appears to be a connector water sealing failure.
Some other models have... uhh... practically rebuildable height sensors - land cruisers, mostly. This one is welded/glued/whatever plastic. Anyways, haven't pulled it apart yet, waiting for the issue to manifest again so that I can see live which sensor is acting up in the first place. Still, with the welded ones, most of the time it appears to be a connector water sealing failure.
in related news, washed the lc today (about my least favorite thing to do) and took it for a drive to do some errands... such a great car.
i do want to look at the warranty info though, it should be fine, hell it only has 18k mi. on it.good choice on telluride. i prefer the palisade looks but both excellent vehicles.
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Yeah one thing to check for yours, Hyundai has that great warranty but only for the original owner. If you buy it out and keep it make sure that you keep that warranty. Technically you become the second owner.
Yeah I think the Telluride will serve us well. Have to decide on colors…will post some and get some thoughts.
Yeah I think the Telluride will serve us well. Have to decide on colors…will post some and get some thoughts.
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The strange thing I notice is my passenger outside shoulder wear more than the driver’s. I thought the car may not be aligned but it is. I can let go the steering wheel and it still keeps going straight. Any idea why they wear the way? My fronts are 275/40/21 and rears are 315/35/21.
Originally Posted by SW17LS
Could be that you turn left more?
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Agreed. I was only citing some possibilities.
On a related note, technicians once noticed that the driver's side brake pads in my vehicles often wore faster than the ones on the passenger's side. They attributed it to my 280 lb.weight and the fact that I usually drive alone. Makes sense.
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Its an aesthetic difference. That was great for that era, but modern dashes with additional wood and metal trim and stitched leather sections IMO are way more modern and high end looking than just one piece all vinyl padded dash. The dash of a moden car is still all one piece, it just has trim attached to that one piece.
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From: ON/NY
Its an aesthetic difference. That was great for that era, but modern dashes with additional wood and metal trim and stitched leather sections IMO are way more modern and high end looking than just one piece all vinyl padded dash. The dash of a moden car is still all one piece, it just has trim attached to that one piece.
