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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
That doesn't look fake to me, it just looks tucked away. That's fine. What I personally hate is when the actual pipes are hidden like in this picture, and then put "openings" (that aren't really openings) on the bumper where they might have put the exhaust instead.

One of the big offenders is the Audi SQ5. The previous generation had a true quad exhaust exiting through the bumper:



But in the current one, they hid away the real exhaust tips, and then put this fakery nonsense in the bumper cover in some misguided attempt to make it look sporty:



If Audi did what you showed in your picture, I'd be a little disappointed because it lost some of the cool factor. But I wouldn't be offended like I am now.
What a disaster. The older one at least looked good.
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
That doesn't look fake to me, it just looks tucked away. That's fine. What I personally hate is when the actual pipes are hidden like in this picture, and then put "openings" (that aren't really openings) on the bumper where they might have put the exhaust instead.

One of the big offenders is the Audi SQ5. The previous generation had a true quad exhaust exiting through the bumper:



But in the current one, they hid away the real exhaust tips, and then put this fakery nonsense in the bumper cover in some misguided attempt to make it look sporty:



If Audi did what you showed in your picture, I'd be a little disappointed because it lost some of the cool factor. But I wouldn't be offended like I am now.
Actual previous-gen SQ5 rear:

Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:39 AM
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Actual previous-gen SQ5 rear:

Thanks for the correction. Doesn't change the story, but yes that's the correct chassis. The one I posted was apparently ABTs fix for the current travesty. They did a nice job!
Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:53 AM
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Its the same issue in housing. I bought my house in 2021, and my rate is 3.125%. If I bought the same house today, for the same money, my payment would be $1,400 per month more just because of the rate. When you factor in that my house is worth $75,000 more than it was in 2021, the difference to someone buying it today is like $2,000 per month.

BUT, people are still buying houses, and they are still buying cars. It surprises even economists...
Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Wow. My dealer has pulled pre-owned cars off the lot if they didn't have an E-class above for S/SL/G-wagen/etc. owners.
My Audi dealer did the same for me. That actually reminds me I should write that whole experience up...
Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
I remember we were discussing about fake exhaust tips. How do you folks feel about this design? The old one looks nicer imo. And damn the light bulb under the swoosh is definitely weird imo.

I'm pretty sure those are just reflectors, not lights.
Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
I'm pretty sure those are just reflectors, not lights.
i was talking about the front lights. Sorry didn’t have a picture of it.

Originally Posted by geko29
That doesn't look fake to me, it just looks tucked away. That's fine. What I personally hate is when the actual pipes are hidden like in this picture, and then put "openings" (that aren't really openings) on the bumper where they might have put the exhaust instead.

One of the big offenders is the Audi SQ5. The previous generation had a true quad exhaust exiting through the bumper:



But in the current one, they hid away the real exhaust tips, and then put this fakery nonsense in the bumper cover in some misguided attempt to make it look sporty:



If Audi did what you showed in your picture, I'd be a little disappointed because it lost some of the cool factor. But I wouldn't be offended like I am now.
I’m aware they’re not fake. The previous gen has similar design like the previous gen audi you posted.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
What a disaster. The older one at least looked good.
definitely looks bad. On mb at least the fakeness is not too obvious.
Old Mar 3, 2023 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
I remember we were discussing about fake exhaust tips. How do you folks feel about this design? The old one looks nicer imo. And damn the light bulb under the swoosh is definitely weird imo.

Meh. The reflectors are a turn off to me. Is this a Toyota?

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and they are still buying cars. It surprises even economists...
Interest rates are not high enough. Cars are also in very high demand as well. So there is that.

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This A220 is so awful lol

I love this big warning all over the driver side window:




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This A220 is so awful lol

I love this big warning all over the driver side window:



That warning on the window is crazy. A class is meh. Made in Mexico for some models. I do like that they have it.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
This A220 is so awful lol

I love this big warning all over the driver side window:



Well this belongs in the Dumb Driver's thread, because that warning is there because that's what people do. Multiple times I've been at the dealer and the guy at the loaner desk is super-grumpy because they are short on loaners because customers said "Oh I'll bring it back tomorrow", or worse, just didn't show.
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That warning on the window is crazy. A class is meh. Made in Mexico for some models. I do like that they have it.
Yeah, super classy.

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Well this belongs in the Dumb Driver's thread, because that warning is there because that's what people do. Multiple times I've been at the dealer and the guy at the loaner desk is super-grumpy because they are short on loaners because customers said "Oh I'll bring it back tomorrow", or worse, just didn't show.
I don't have a problem with the sentiment, its the big warning stuck to the window.

To be fair, my car has been there since 8AM and has not been started (I have the valet on so it will text me), which means it hasn't even been looked at. I had it in a different location of this dealer in December, they had it 4 business days and never even looked at it, I wound up just telling them to give it back to me. All the while I'm in a car I can't drive more than 100 miles a day or outside a 75 mile radius or they're going to charge me .25c a mile.

If they are in no hurry to look at my car and get the job done, I dont see why I should be in a hurry to drop everything and rush their loaner back to them as soon as they finally tell me the car is done.

This is a big difference between Lexus and Mercedes, Mercedes takes their sweet time when working on a car, I can never recall having my Lexus not looked at by the dealer the day I drop it off in the morning...and it was always very rare I was in a loaner overnight, and certainly not for multiple days...I don't think the S560 has ever been in the shop and given back to me the same day, even for just maintenance. And its not like I walked in, the time in December I scheduled that 10 days out, this one I scheduled 5 days out...
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Called me, shocker they wont be able to look at it until Monday...hopefully they can put me into a better loaner



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