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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
The Model 3 is the cheapest model, with the long range version selling for $45,940 and Performance at $53,940.
Wrong. Per Tesla's website, Model 3 purchase price (not bogus with fuel savings price) is $50,990 and $58,990 respectively. They do show a 'regular' Model 3 at less, but that's not even available to get if you order now until June next year.

Model Y, which has third row seating (there better be small children sitting back there LOL) starts at $53,940/$58,940.
$58,990 on their website, WITHOUT third row. The third row adds $3K ($61,990).

The Model 3 and Model Y are completely affordable, as cars in their classes are similar priced or higher.
what are you comparing them to?

The thing about Tesla is that the web pricing is what you get, most dealers are jacking up the prices way above MSRP, I've seen cars like the RAV4 Prime being sold $10K above MSRP
I like the fixed pricing for sure, but I just did a rav4 build, top of the line with every option for under $49K so at LEAST $10K less than bottom of the line Model Y. Top of the line Rav4 certainly a much more premium and feature rich space than a spartan bottom model Y with a giant iPad stuck in the middle and that's it.

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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
People that have differing opinions than you are not automatically idiots.
completely agree and that's not what i wrote.

Speaking of turds the EQS looks an awful lot like one IMO of course,
of course.

I don't see anyone calling you an idiot for liking the design.
But you're probably thinking it and that's ok too.
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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
The Model 3 is the cheapest model, with the long range version selling for $45,940 and Performance at $53,940. Model Y, which has third row seating (there better be small children sitting back there LOL) starts at $53,940/$58,940. The Models S and X are above $100K, these are the premium models. The Model 3 and Model Y are completely affordable, as cars in their classes are similar priced or higher. The thing about Tesla is that the web pricing is what you get, most dealers are jacking up the prices way above MSRP, I've seen cars like the RAV4 Prime being sold $10K above MSRP
There is not a dealer here yet, but a service center. So I was wondering what everyone does to get them here in Knoxville, duh you just order online.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Wrong. Per Tesla's website, Model 3 purchase price (not bogus with fuel savings price) is $50,990 and $58,990 respectively. They do show a 'regular' Model 3 at less, but that's not even available to get if you order now until June next year.



$58,990 on their website, WITHOUT third row. The third row adds $3K ($61,990).



what are you comparing them to?



I like the fixed pricing for sure, but I just did a rav4 build, top of the line with every option for under $49K so at LEAST $10K less than bottom of the line Model Y. Top of the line Rav4 certainly a much more premium and feature rich space than a spartan bottom model Y with a giant iPad stuck in the middle and that's it.
Ah, I see what they do. Here's the pricing I got when I hit the purchase button:


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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
There is not a dealer here yet, but a service center. So I was wondering what everyone does to get them here in Knoxville, duh you just order online.
There are no "dealerships" here as well. They do have a showroom where you can kick the tires and test drive. You order online and they deliver it to you. You see the trucks coming out of the Tesla plant loaded up, and I see them when I am heading to SoCal
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
There are no "dealerships" here as well. They do have a showroom where you can kick the tires and test drive. You order online and they deliver it to you. You see the trucks coming out of the Tesla plant loaded up, and I see them when I am heading to SoCal
Not for long, it's gonna be Texas now!

Also they excluded the tax credit and such on the estimates, that's about 5 grand more.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Not for long, it's gonna be Texas now!

Also they excluded the tax credit and such on the estimates, that's about 5 grand more.
It doesn't matter where the HQ's are located, if an EV qualifies for the credits California will pay them out

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I see what you're saying on second read. You would still get the Federal Tax credits if the EV qualifies, it would be up the the individual state based on their tax policies

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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
It doesn't matter where the HQ's are located, if an EV qualifies for the credits California will pay them out
If you register in CAlifornia, you have to pay the sales tax but you get a credit on any EV purchase. Thats the way it works in most states though. I feel I got a bargain on my Performance 3 as it was $57k with tax credits (red was a $2k option!).
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Originally Posted by EZZ
If you register in CAlifornia, you have to pay the sales tax but you get a credit on any EV purchase. Thats the way it works in most states though. I feel I got a bargain on my Performance 3 as it was $57k with tax credits (red was a $2k option!).
I wasn't thinking when I first read the post, I'm at work trying to multitask, which I don't do very well. They would still get the Fed tax credit if the EV qualifies, but any additional tax incentives would be up to the states they reside in
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
There are no "dealerships" here as well. They do have a showroom where you can kick the tires and test drive. You order online and they deliver it to you. You see the trucks coming out of the Tesla plant loaded up, and I see them when I am heading to SoCal
They only deliver if you live close to the service center. I live in the middle of 2 service centers with both being maybe 20 miles away and they won't deliver, I had to schedule a time to pick up the car.
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They only deliver if you live close to the service center. I live in the middle of 2 service centers with both being maybe 20 miles away and they won't deliver, I had to schedule a time to pick up the car.
That's interesting. I'm pretty sure they deliver all over California, friends and family who bought who live in SoCal had their delivered to their home and offices. I see the trucks full of Tesla's making the 300 to 400 mile trek to SoCal. @EZZ can weigh in on that since he lives in SoCal
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Originally Posted by EZZ
(red was a $2k option!).

So they’re turning into Porsche with nickel and diming with the options, I really don’t like this (not a smart move….Porsche barely gets away with it), but I’m glad you like your car!
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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 02:42 PM
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So they’re turning into Porsche with nickel and diming with the options, I really don’t like this (not a smart move….Porsche barely gets away with it), but I’m glad you like your car!
Who doesn't nickel and dime you, especially these days. Whenever I've bought new, I spend a month negotiating through email before I've bought. I've always negotiated invoice. Those days are over, everything is over MSRP. Even used are way overpriced. The Lexus dealership offered me almost $20k for my 11 year old IS350...I paid $19,500 almost 3 years ago
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Who doesn't nickel and dime you, especially these days. Whenever I've bought new, I spend a month negotiating through email before I've bought. I've always negotiated invoice. Those days are over, everything is over MSRP. Even used are way overpriced. The Lexus dealership offered me almost $20k for my 11 year old IS350...I paid $19,500 almost 3 years ago
I’m talking about expensive stupid options like Porsche does. Charging 2 grand for red is ridiculous, no offense.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I’m talking about expensive stupid options like Porsche does. Charging 2 grand for red is ridiculous, no offense.
I totally agree, but as long as buyers are willing to pay, that's what the market will bare
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