Mercedes EQS flagship
Model Y, which has third row seating (there better be small children sitting back there LOL) starts at $53,940/$58,940.
The Model 3 and Model Y are completely affordable, as cars in their classes are similar priced or higher.
The thing about Tesla is that the web pricing is what you get, most dealers are jacking up the prices way above MSRP, I've seen cars like the RAV4 Prime being sold $10K above MSRP

Speaking of turds the EQS looks an awful lot like one IMO of course,
I don't see anyone calling you an idiot for liking the design.

The Model 3 is the cheapest model, with the long range version selling for $45,940 and Performance at $53,940. Model Y, which has third row seating (there better be small children sitting back there LOL) starts at $53,940/$58,940. The Models S and X are above $100K, these are the premium models. The Model 3 and Model Y are completely affordable, as cars in their classes are similar priced or higher. The thing about Tesla is that the web pricing is what you get, most dealers are jacking up the prices way above MSRP, I've seen cars like the RAV4 Prime being sold $10K above MSRP
Wrong. Per Tesla's website, Model 3 purchase price (not bogus with fuel savings price) is $50,990 and $58,990 respectively. They do show a 'regular' Model 3 at less, but that's not even available to get if you order now until June next year.
$58,990 on their website, WITHOUT third row. The third row adds $3K ($61,990).
what are you comparing them to?
I like the fixed pricing for sure, but I just did a rav4 build, top of the line with every option for under $49K so at LEAST $10K less than bottom of the line Model Y. Top of the line Rav4 certainly a much more premium and feature rich space than a spartan bottom model Y with a giant iPad stuck in the middle and that's it.
$58,990 on their website, WITHOUT third row. The third row adds $3K ($61,990).
what are you comparing them to?
I like the fixed pricing for sure, but I just did a rav4 build, top of the line with every option for under $49K so at LEAST $10K less than bottom of the line Model Y. Top of the line Rav4 certainly a much more premium and feature rich space than a spartan bottom model Y with a giant iPad stuck in the middle and that's it.

There are no "dealerships" here as well. They do have a showroom where you can kick the tires and test drive. You order online and they deliver it to you. You see the trucks coming out of the Tesla plant loaded up, and I see them when I am heading to SoCal
Also they excluded the tax credit and such on the estimates, that's about 5 grand more.
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I see what you're saying on second read. You would still get the Federal Tax credits if the EV qualifies, it would be up the the individual state based on their tax policies
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(red was a $2k option!).
I wasn't thinking when I first read the post, I'm at work trying to multitask, which I don't do very well. They would still get the Fed tax credit if the EV qualifies, but any additional tax incentives would be up to the states they reside in
They only deliver if you live close to the service center. I live in the middle of 2 service centers with both being maybe 20 miles away and they won't deliver, I had to schedule a time to pick up the car.
Who doesn't nickel and dime you, especially these days. Whenever I've bought new, I spend a month negotiating through email before I've bought. I've always negotiated invoice. Those days are over, everything is over MSRP. Even used are way overpriced. The Lexus dealership offered me almost $20k for my 11 year old IS350...I paid $19,500 almost 3 years ago
Who doesn't nickel and dime you, especially these days. Whenever I've bought new, I spend a month negotiating through email before I've bought. I've always negotiated invoice. Those days are over, everything is over MSRP. Even used are way overpriced. The Lexus dealership offered me almost $20k for my 11 year old IS350...I paid $19,500 almost 3 years ago











