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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Winding roads and low speeds have no affect on EV range, it's long highway runs and fluctuating climates that really hammer the battery. In this case the only unusual aspect was that Alex had to use the heater for his entire run and the car has no heat pump (really, Mercedes?) which means that probably consumed a bit of juice.

Either way, the folks at Edmunds were probably fingering the throttle the whole time. Alex's numbers are far more believable than theirs.
I've driven those same roads numerous times, and I would be lucky to get to get 15 mpg in my IS350. I would say 345 miles is excellent for those roads. Not having a heat pump is definitely much more of a drain on the battery, I'm surprised a brand like Mercedes would skip that step. Maybe because this car is destined for California where generally what we call cold weather here is not really what people from other parts would call cold they skimped on the heat pump
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I've driven those same roads numerous times, and I would be lucky to get to get 15 mpg in my IS350. I would say 345 miles is excellent for those roads. Not having a heat pump is definitely much more of a drain on the battery, I'm surprised a brand like Mercedes would skip that step. Maybe because this car is destined for California where generally what we call cold weather here is not really what people from other parts would call cold they skimped on the heat pump
You can't compare ICE range to EV range- ICE engines get horrible fuel economy in slow traffic, winding roads, and high altitudes- none of which affect EV range and if anything work in their favor.

What's truly bizarre about the lack of a heat pump is that the EQA gets one but the EQS doesn't, even on the AWD version. A glaring omission on such an expensive vehicle.
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 03:13 PM
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Winding roads affect any vehicle no matter how it makes power.
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 03:23 PM
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alex on autos video at 30:00 in: "if i were shopping for an ev right now and budget were absolute no issue, i would buy an eqs over every other ev out there right now."

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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 08:05 PM
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alex on autos video at 30:00 in: "if i were shopping for an ev right now and budget were absolute no issue, i would buy an eqs over every other ev out there right now."

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Pretty good review. I had no doubt MB would hit their first bespoke EV out of the park.
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 09:03 PM
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Pretty good review. I had no doubt MB would hit their first bespoke EV out of the park.
Same here. It just looks awful.
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Winding roads and low speeds have no affect on EV range, it's long highway runs and fluctuating climates that really hammer the battery. In this case the only unusual aspect was that Alex had to use the heater for his entire run and the car has no heat pump (really, Mercedes?) which means that probably consumed a bit of juice.

Either way, the folks at Edmunds were probably fingering the throttle the whole time. Alex's numbers are far more believable than theirs.
Elevation changes do have an impact though, he has several long highway grades he climbs every day, he's discussed it in his videos before.

Even 350 miles of range though is very workable, I could integrate that into my life no problem, I would just take the Pacifica to WV.
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 07:42 AM
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Elevation changes do have an impact though, he has several long highway grades he climbs every day, he's discussed it in his videos before.

Even 350 miles of range though is very workable, I could integrate that into my life no problem, I would just take the Pacifica to WV.
350 is good. It will be interesting to read what the cold weather reviews report. .
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Elevation changes do have an impact though, he has several long highway grades he climbs every day, he's discussed it in his videos before.

Even 350 miles of range though is very workable, I could integrate that into my life no problem, I would just take the Pacifica to WV.
Elevation changes definitely impact the range. The other important factor to consider is that depending on the regen programming , the car can recoup a fair bit of charge on the descents. On my car I always keep it at the agressive setting as that makes one pedal driving the default.

And 350 miles is definitely more than enough. My 5 year old 75D has 240 miles and it's perfectly fine (although having more is definitely better).
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 07:48 AM
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Same here. It just looks awful.
says the guy that thinks this is beautiful.



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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 07:49 AM
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I think thats WAY better looking than the EQS...
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
says the guy that thinks this is beautiful.


This does not look great. new LX600 front end looks good as it was designed for the model. This spindle front ends looks bad. My least favourite thing Lexus did with the 2016 refresh was the hide the full rear 1/4 window with a plastic but the window is really there on the inside.


From this angle. EQS looks sensational. Love the color blue



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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 08:10 AM
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Looks like a computer mouse to me lol
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 09:14 AM
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345 miles sound good, it is hard to understand what does that actually mean unless you are driving another EV on same route, same way... but in any case 345 miles is good.
No heat pump is a major problem though.
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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I drove an EQS yesterday at a test drive event they were doing in the Philly burbs. It's a very nice car! Silent as a tomb, felt high quality (minus super plasticky steering wheel stalks) and accelerated briskly. I drove the 450 and the 580 and neither pulled as hard as my 3P, but I would be happy with either. Passenger amenities in the front and rear were really nice too. If I didn't have the Rivian pre-ordered, I'd consider one to replace my 3 over the Model S. It is ugly though on the outside though

Plus I got a free of hat
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