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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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The first G80 that was bought burnt to the ground literally. But in all seriousness, the G80 has no chance at success stateside. Very low sales from an almost non existent dealer network. The GV80 on the other hand should be popular when it comes out.
The G80 was one of the better selling cars in its class for a few years in the US, the G90 had respectable sales too for a few years in the US before the dealership fiasco. I don't think the new G80 will sell well because of pricing but who knows but the Hyundai Genesis/G80 sold in pretty good numbers for a few years, it outsold the GS, A6, Q70 and others for a couple months, I see them everywhere.
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 11:13 AM
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Since it was launched, the Genesis/G80 has outsold the GS, Q70, RLX, S90, XF, and even CTS every single year. From that list, four are dead (the Cadillac and everything from Japan), and one is rumored to be on the chopping block due to poor sales further compounded by Corona (the Jaaag). The only one left then is the Volvo, who has among the lowest sales number of the bunch. You can throw in the CT5 but it's not really a competitor to the G80 due to its tweener status and lower-grade tech. The ES isn't in the same price range and is a class below. So all that's left that is competitive in this gradually declining segment are the Germans.

I anticipate the G80 will outsell the A6 like it did before the dealership fiasco, but the 5 and E are like the Camry and Accord of their segment, and will be very hard to overcome. However, if Genesis does introduce the eG80 early on, that's going to make them stand out from the rest and may bump up sales a bit since none of the competitors will be offering full EV versions until their next gen.
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 05:00 PM
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The problem is that the G80 is not getting the sales that, IMO, it deserves. Yes, I know that "almost" only counts in horseshoes, but, nonetheless, if the Lacrosse had not been available three years ago, I probably would have bought a new AWD G80 myself. It was that close.
The current one is really old, and it shows. It sold much better when it was new. The new one will do much better.
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 05:14 PM
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The current one is really old, and it shows. It sold much better when it was new. The new one will do much better.

.....Oldie but Goodie. It was also previously marketed, of course, as the Hyundai Genesis.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Since it was launched, the Genesis/G80 has outsold the GS, Q70, RLX, S90, XF, and even CTS every single year.
Nothing against the G80, it's matches the Germans pretty well, but the bar is pretty low to outsell the aforementioned vehicles
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 04:05 PM
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Battle of the grilles:

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Old Jul 12, 2020 | 02:43 AM
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An owner talks about his long-term experience with the car. At 45 minutes long, even I haven't had time to sit through it all, but some might appreciate it:

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The 2021 Genesis G80 midsize luxury sedan is looking quite appealing. Not only is it gorgeous, it's priced competitively and has cool technology. Now we can also add the fact that it's more efficient than its predecessor without really sacrificing performance.

The base engine is now a 2.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder making 300 horsepower and 311 pound-feet of torque, down 11 hp but up 18 lb-ft of torque to the previous car's naturally aspirated V6. This new four-cylinder returns 23 mpg city, 32 highway and 26 combined with rear-wheel drive. All-wheel drive brings those numbers down to 22/30/25 mpg. The old rear-drive V6 only got numbers of 18/26/21 mpg with AWD lowering them by 1 mpg combined. That's a huge year-to-year difference.

The new optional engine is a twin-turbo 3.5-liter V6, as opposed to the twin-turbo 3.3-liter in the old car. The new engine makes 375 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque, increases of 10 hp and 15 lb-ft of torque. Fuel economy for the new engine with rear-wheel drive is 19 mpg city, 27 highway and 21 combined, and all-wheel drive drops those numbers to 18/26/20. That represents only a slight improvement over its predecessor: 1 mpg combined better with RWD and the same with AWD.

The 420-hp V8 has been dropped altogether. Unsurprisingly, it was the least efficient of the old G80's engines with combined fuel economy ratings of 19 mpg with RWD and 18 mpg with AWD.
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Nice test of 3.5 awd version... this guy drives it HARD

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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 05:47 AM
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Nice test of 3.5 awd version... this guy drives it HARD

https://youtu.be/2RpfYFCo2Zo
Wow, he really does I wouldn't really have the opportunity to drive it quite as hard as he does where I live, but it's nice to see what it's capable of, even with wet roads. He couldn't keep the smile off his face, lol
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Wow, he really does I wouldn't really have the opportunity to drive it quite as hard as he does where I live, but it's nice to see what it's capable of, even with wet roads. He couldn't keep the smile off his face, lol
Yes, that was a very enjoyable review. Honestly, I am surprised it took 5.9 seconds to get to 60, but then, it was rainy with first gear acceleration looking artificially dull. So if I had to guess, it's a low-5-second car. Looked super easy to toss it into turns as well. All the while, the driver is surrounded by a fantastic interior. Like it a lot!
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Nice test of 3.5 awd version... this guy drives it HARD
Stunned that he somehow squeezed 37 miles per gallon on the highway with the 3.5 twin turbo and all wheel drive, driving like THAT. Way above the claimed 26 mpg. Is Hyundai underrating like the Germans too?
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Luxury sedans certainly aren't what they used to be in the automotive pantheon, largely supplanted in the buying public's eyes by SUVs. However, a sleek and elegant sedan can still turn heads, and with the 2021 Genesis G80, we think that some swiveling is bound to occur. Though its shape is certainly evocative of the Audi A7, that's not really a bad thing, and there are more than enough unique details to make it something other than a copycat. It's also the first G80 you can't describe as bland, as it presents more reasons than just a low price and long warranty for folks to consider it instead of established segments entries like the Audi A6, BMW 5 Series and Mercedes E-Class.

That's particularly the case inside, where Genesis has really stepped things up in terms of quality, technology and a unique design that should definitely stand out during back-to-back test drives of various luxury sedans. It looks and feels special inside. The huge, standard 14.5-inch touchscreen with iPod-like secondary controller stands out in particular for being feature-rich and user-friendly, which is a rarity in luxury cars. There's also tons of space in the comfy back seat, which is a big part of buying a big luxury sedan like the G80.

How it drives is obviously a big part, but to this point, we've only taken a glorified trip around the block in it. The suspension feels as sophisticated behind the wheel as it looks when taking a peek behind the wheels, and the engine specs suggest plenty of oomph, but we'll have to reserve full judgment for later. Still, our brief taste suggests a sedan that should definitely be taken seriously.

What's the interior and in-car technology like?

Admittedly, the G80 we've experienced was a top-of-the-line 3.5T Prestige model with deep blue leather accented in chocolate brown and rich matte-finish wood trim. It really looks sensational. Unique, too, which is definitely something that matters in this high-priced segment. Lower trims are available with different two-tone schemes (see photo gallery below), which may not be as distinctive, but are still quite classy and memorable. In general, we don't anticipate a considerable dropoff in interior quality or ambience between trim levels.

Quality throughout is excellent, with many surfaces covered in a convincing leather substitute, plus that opulent stretch of wood across the dash and on the center console. New switchgear is exclusive to Genesis (no more Hyundai bits and pieces) and everything looks and feels like it belongs in a proper luxury car.

Standard is the new Genesis infotainment system that consists of an immense 14.5-inch touchscreen supported by a center console controller that basically acts like an old iPod thumbwheel. This combination of new-and-old Apple-style control interfaces sure seemed to make sense in our brief, static sampling – touch is great for many functions, but the wheel makes scrolling through songs, contacts or radio stations much easier. We also like that Genesis maintains physical controls for volume, tuning and various menu shortcuts.

As for what it all controls, the feature content is immense but the layout is simple. If there was any area where the G80 is clearly related to a Hyundai it's here, and it's a good thing. Though a tad fancier in appearance (a defused image of nighttime Seoul sits in the background of menus, for instance), its functionality is just as excellent as what you get in the top-of-the-line Sonata. Actually, it's just a bit better due to its two extra inches of screen width.

How big is it?

Genesis has not released dimensions for the 2021 G80, but we've seen the car in person, sat inside and even stuffed luggage in its trunk. In short, it's a big sedan. If it's longer than a BMW 5 Series, we wouldn't be surprised. There is plenty of backseat legroom, as your 6-foot-3 author was able to comfortably sit behind his own driving position. There was also sufficient headroom despite that sloping roofline.

As for the seats themselves, they are surprisingly contoured and decidedly un-bench-like. You should be able to ride comfortably back there for long stretches of time. The front seats, meanwhile, can be heated, ventilated and offer a range of adjustments, including a power cushion extender and adjustable side bolsters that can automatic push in and out depending on drive mode.

We don't have an official cargo number, but we managed to bring along our luggage test bags for our first look of the 2021 G80. We could fit everything except the biggest roller bag inside, but there was still plenty of space left over. In total, it's not quite as good as a midsize sedan like a Hyundai Sonata, but that's actually normal for this luxury segment that sacrifices space for styling and rear-wheel-drive architecture.

What's the performance and fuel economy?

The 2021 G80 comes standard with a 2.5-liter turbocharged inline-four that produces 300 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque. An eight-speed automatic is standard, and there'll be a choice of standard rear-wheel drive or optional all-wheel drive.

The upgrade engine is a 3.5-liter turbocharged V6 that produces 375 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. It has the same transmission and drivetrain options as the 2.5T. No fuel economy or 0-60 performance data were provided at the time of this writing.

What's it like to drive?

We were really only able to drive the G80 slowly around a parking lot, as it was unlicensed. We know its adaptive suspension pitches ever-so-slightly in turns like a Mercedes does, and the steering has a linear, natural feel to its weighting, but that's about it. Stay tuned.

What features are available and what's the price?

Usually, pricing is the last thing to be announced when a new car is introduced, but in the case of the 2021 Genesis G80, it's one of the first. Things start at $47,700, including the $1,025 destination charge, for the base, rear-wheel-drive G80 2.5T. The all-wheel-drive 2.5T starts at $51,875.

Standard equipment includes 18-inch wheels, LED headlights, an advanced adaptive cruise control and a full suite of driver assist tech (see Safety section below), heated eight-way power front seats, leatherette upholstery, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and the 14.5-inch touchscreen.

The Advanced package ($4,600) adds 19-inch wheels, a panoramic sunroof, a power trunk, three-zone auto climate control, ventilated front seats, matte finish wood trim, rear sunshades and a 21-speaker Lexicon sound system.

The 3.5T starts at $60,125 for RWD and $63,275 for AWD. It basically comes standard with the Advanced package but adds upgraded brakes and an adaptive suspension that anticipates road imperfections, plus leather upholstery, wireless charging, soft-close doors and a near-field communication digital key.

Those interior extras are also added in the 2.5T's Prestige package ($8,300) along with extra driver assistance systems (see below) and an enhanced driver seat. The 3.5T Prestige package ($6,000) goes even further by adding Nappa leather seats, a microfiber suede headliner, a heated steering wheel, heated rear seats, a head-up display and an upgraded all-digital instrument panel.

What are its safety equipment and crash ratings?

Every 2021 Genesis G80 comes with the latest and greatest in Hyundai Group's substantial safety system arsenal. The standard forward collision warning system with automatic emergency braking not only detects pedestrians, but traffic coming from the left and right at intersections. Lane-keeping assist, blind-spot warning and a driver inattention warning system are all standard, as is an advanced adaptive cruise control system with automated lane changes, highway steering assist and a unique AI-based system that apparently learns the driver's driving characteristics and adapts its automated driving to be similar. We're very curious to test that.

Optional systems include Hyundai's Smart Park assist, a surround-view parking camera and an enhanced blind-spot warning system with cameras that send images from each side of the car into the digital instrument cluster.

The G80 has not been crash tested by a third party.
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 01:07 PM
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Alex's no-drive review. Nice to see that we get a spare wheel, which I don't remember on the Korean versions.

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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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This car excites in a way similar to how the 2GS400 did back in the day... impressive performance, tech, design, interior wow, nice.
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