Steve's Pacifica replacement thread
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He is the perfect customer for one....
He, has a house, well off, lives in a city on the east coast with no real distance needed, leases doesn't buy, doesn't use the power of his car to the fullest, doesn't drive hard, likes tech/glam more than hard engineering, isn't a mechanical tech nerd and does utilize connected features.
It's literally the perfect fit
He, has a house, well off, lives in a city on the east coast with no real distance needed, leases doesn't buy, doesn't use the power of his car to the fullest, doesn't drive hard, likes tech/glam more than hard engineering, isn't a mechanical tech nerd and does utilize connected features.
It's literally the perfect fit
He wants a 3 row 300 mile luxurious EV. Is there such a thing?
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He is the perfect customer for one....
He, has a house, well off, lives in a city on the east coast with no real distance needed, leases doesn't buy, doesn't use the power of his car to the fullest, doesn't drive hard, likes tech/glam more than hard engineering, isn't a mechanical tech nerd and does utilize connected features.
It's literally the perfect fit
He, has a house, well off, lives in a city on the east coast with no real distance needed, leases doesn't buy, doesn't use the power of his car to the fullest, doesn't drive hard, likes tech/glam more than hard engineering, isn't a mechanical tech nerd and does utilize connected features.
It's literally the perfect fit
But it all fairness, he does own a PHEV. So he's at least proven himself EV-curious. lol.
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Friend who has an XT6 had a Vistiq as a loaner. She said it was nice and smooth. Asked her if she would purchase one. Said if she went the EV route, she would go with the Escalade EV version for the extra space.
What page are we on now…he’s still not buying an EV😂😂😂😂
And he is very sure that the whole "running out of charge thing" is just "silly". Said so yesterday. So range clearly isn't an issue or excuse. Before that it was access to superchargers, but that is no longer an issue.
But it all fairness, he does own a PHEV. So he's at least proven himself EV-curious. lol.
But it all fairness, he does own a PHEV. So he's at least proven himself EV-curious. lol.
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He is the perfect customer for one....
He, has a house, well off, lives in a city on the east coast with no real distance needed, leases doesn't buy, doesn't use the power of his car to the fullest, doesn't drive hard, likes tech/glam more than hard engineering, isn't a mechanical tech nerd and does utilize connected features.
It's literally the perfect fit
He, has a house, well off, lives in a city on the east coast with no real distance needed, leases doesn't buy, doesn't use the power of his car to the fullest, doesn't drive hard, likes tech/glam more than hard engineering, isn't a mechanical tech nerd and does utilize connected features.
It's literally the perfect fit
Escalade is 211.9 inches long, Escalade ESV is 227 inches long, Escalade IQ is 224.3 inches long, IQL is 228.5
Thats another example of why buying the Pacifica and waiting might be the better move.
Originally Posted by Bob04
And he is very sure that the whole "running out of charge thing" is just "silly". Said so yesterday. So range clearly isn't an issue or excuse. Before that it was access to superchargers, but that is no longer an issue.
Yeah I'm not worried about that. My BIL just got a Rivian and thats who we primarily go to visit in that family vehicle, so he will have a level 2 charger at his home. That solves that. Going to the beach there are superchargers there now, that solves that. WV is still an issue, but we only do that trip in the family vehicle once year, otherwise I do that trip alone and I'm in my car.
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Yeah I'm not worried about that. My BIL just got a Rivian and thats who we primarily go to visit in that family vehicle, so he will have a level 2 charger at his home. That solves that. Going to the beach there are superchargers there now, that solves that. WV is still an issue, but we only do that trip in the family vehicle once year, otherwise I do that trip alone and I'm in my car.
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Not sure your route to/in WV, but my partner has a Tesla and drove down to SC and back 2.5 years ago along Interstate 81, and only had to stop to charge 2x each way. And the Tesla nav optimized his route and he stopped at a hotel or convenience store right off the interstate each time for 20-30 minutes.
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Yep, I don't disagree, other than then "tech/glam vs hard engineering". I want a car that has the chassis and suspension sophistication I want, but this is a family vehicle not my own personal vehicle.
There are actually many of them. Rivian R1S, Cadillac Vistiq, Cadillac Escalade IQ, Mercedes EQS SUV, Lucid Gravity, Volvo EX90...way more 3 row full EVs than PHEVs.
Its actually considerably bigger than the regular Escalade, its about the same size as the Escalade ESV and the IQL is even bigger than that. Its a massive vehicle.
Escalade is 211.9 inches long, Escalade ESV is 227 inches long, Escalade IQ is 224.3 inches long, IQL is 228.5
Q7 is a little tight but probably similar to the XC90.
Thats another example of why buying the Pacifica and waiting might be the better move.
Yeah I'm not worried about that. My BIL just got a Rivian and thats who we primarily go to visit in that family vehicle, so he will have a level 2 charger at his home. That solves that. Going to the beach there are superchargers there now, that solves that. WV is still an issue, but we only do that trip in the family vehicle once year, otherwise I do that trip alone and I'm in my car.
There are actually many of them. Rivian R1S, Cadillac Vistiq, Cadillac Escalade IQ, Mercedes EQS SUV, Lucid Gravity, Volvo EX90...way more 3 row full EVs than PHEVs.
Its actually considerably bigger than the regular Escalade, its about the same size as the Escalade ESV and the IQL is even bigger than that. Its a massive vehicle.
Escalade is 211.9 inches long, Escalade ESV is 227 inches long, Escalade IQ is 224.3 inches long, IQL is 228.5
Q7 is a little tight but probably similar to the XC90.
Thats another example of why buying the Pacifica and waiting might be the better move.
Yeah I'm not worried about that. My BIL just got a Rivian and thats who we primarily go to visit in that family vehicle, so he will have a level 2 charger at his home. That solves that. Going to the beach there are superchargers there now, that solves that. WV is still an issue, but we only do that trip in the family vehicle once year, otherwise I do that trip alone and I'm in my car.
Vans are extremely hard to beat, they are the most optimized shape for a vehicle and objectively the clear and obvious choice for most people in terms of function.