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all this praise is surprising to me... but maybe the bar of expectations was so low, lol.
this is a tall camry with fake rugged bits'. tombstone screen still.
fake rugged sells to those who 'think' they're 'adventurous' even when the definition of adventure is driving to costco or a theme park. all safe, practical, pre-packaged, and consumer reports approved.
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Ruggedness
is there any info on dimensions? i presume it's not much different in size than the current one (with bad rear seat room
one a chinese mg cuv
Last edited by Toys4RJill; May 21, 2025 at 08:40 AM.
Still have a hybrid RAV4 limited. It’s not noisy imo. Maybe depends on what you’re comparing it to. Averages 40mpg
It's noisy as hell vs many things. Not refined at all and chatters way too much at idle, almost as bad as a Kia 4 cyl with DI noise etc. Under load it's also loud and needs 5k rpm plus to move well, CVT stuff like the hybrids are the worst since they are ALWAYS stuck in the buzz RPM range
The new land cruiser 4 cyl is also bad, but unlike a Rav4 it's not excusable at the price it is.
Last edited by Striker223; May 21, 2025 at 09:01 AM.
It’s really to do with noise insulation. Camry with the same hybrid engine is quieter. ESh is even more so like a completely different car.
And should be expected since it's a more expensive car, the Rav4 is something I would never give a glace at since it costs way too much for such low performance and quality. Much rather buy something used that is actually good
It's noisy as hell vs many things. Not refined at all and chatters way too much at idle, almost as bad as a Kia 4 cyl with DI noise etc. Under load it's also loud and needs 5k rpm plus to move well, CVT stuff like the hybrids are the worst since they are ALWAYS stuck in the buzz RPM range
The new land cruiser 4 cyl is also bad, but unlike a Rav4 it's not excusable at the price it is.
I have whats largely regarded as being one of the quietest cars made and a long history of having quiet cars, "noisy as hell" is a dramatic overstatement lol. Its a compact Toyota with a 4 cyl, drive a similar Honda they sound pretty similar.
I have whats largely regarded as being one of the quietest cars made and a long history of having quiet cars, "noisy as hell" is a dramatic overstatement lol. Its a compact Toyota with a 4 cyl, drive a similar Honda they sound pretty similar.
I disagree. The Rav4 under load did not inspire any confidence in me - it was course and thrashy and I wanted to back off throttle input. I was surprised that it made it past the Toyota NVH department.
If the CRV is anything like my nearly 20 year old Accord, I'd take that any day (even with the CVT) over the Rav4.
I disagree. The Rav4 under load did not inspire any confidence in me - it was course and thrashy and I wanted to back off throttle input. I was surprised that it made it past the Toyota NVH department.
If the CRV is anything like my nearly 20 year old Accord, I'd take that any day (even with the CVT) over the Rav4.
I've driven several of them, the hybrids and never felt that way at all. CRV feels very similar. If you wind them out they don't sound good, but thats true of any 4cyl car with a CVT.