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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
FSD has much more to it than just keeping a steady speed though. But you know this already. Ofcourse it's not perfect and you have to pay attention, but it has a much greater feature set.

Autopilot: Essential automated assistance — adaptive cruise + lane steering on highways. Best for straightforward, highway cruising.

Full Self-Driving (Supervised): Adds advanced maneuver support — intersections, city streets, complex navigation, automated parking, and enhanced summons. Still not fully autonomous and requires driver engagement.
A choice between Auto pilot and FSD, not even a contest. FSD is intelligent driving that makes decisions on the fly, Auto pilot is just what it says....no intelligence, just driving. Every modern car has this feature. If FSD was around the $50 range, it would be a no brainer for me to subscribe. All I can say is FSD is amazing, worth every penny and I will re-activate the subscription every opportunity I get, like trips

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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
FSD has much more to it than just keeping a steady speed though. But you know this already. Ofcourse it's not perfect and you have to pay attention, but it has a much greater feature set.

Autopilot: Essential automated assistance — adaptive cruise + lane steering on highways. Best for straightforward, highway cruising.

Full Self-Driving (Supervised): Adds advanced maneuver support — intersections, city streets, complex navigation, automated parking, and enhanced summons. Still not fully autonomous and requires driver engagement.
Like Kyle and I said though...on the highway really all we want is Autopilot. Until I can do something else while the car is driving, having it drive for me doesn't interest me really.

Now, if I can catch up on emails while the car drives me to work we can talk.

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A choice between Auto pilot and FSD, not even a contest. FSD is intelligent driving that makes decisions on the fly, Auto pilot is just what it says....no intelligence, just driving. Every modern car has this feature.
Thats what Kyle was saying though, thats really all that most people need or want. Point is without subscribing you now have no Autopilot either in a Tesla. So its something every modern car has...but a Tesla without a subscription.

All I can say is FSD is amazing, worth every penny


But you're not renewing your subscription, so its not worth the cost to you. Thats my point, is it really worthwhile when you have to sit there and watch it drive and do nothing? Clearly not.

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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 11:41 AM
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Having said that, I still prefer FSD to autopilot. Autopilot is kinda "dumb" compared to FSD. All it does is slow down and speed up (to the max speed you set it to) according to what's in front. And when you signal, it changes lanes....
AP does not change lanes, at least not in the US. What sucks is, it needs to disengage AP to allow you to manually change lanes. There used to be an intermediate EAP (Enhanced AP) that would, but that has not been available for a couple years now.
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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 11:53 AM
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AP does not change lanes, at least not in the US. What sucks is, it needs to disengage AP to allow you to manually change lanes. There used to be an intermediate EAP (Enhanced AP) that would, but that has not been available for a couple years now.
At the time it was just an enhanced version that you paid for, all it did differently was change lanes when you hit the signal. Auto pilot itself is nothing special, FSD though is absolutely amazing, on my last trip (and using it to commute to and back from work the last two months) I was able to concentrate on other things. It even let me use my phone as long as I glanced up every now and then
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
At the time it was just an enhanced version that you paid for, all it did differently was change lanes when you hit the signal. Auto pilot itself is nothing special, FSD though is absolutely amazing, on my last trip (and using it to commute to and back from work the last two months) I was able to concentrate on other things. It even let me use my phone as long as I glanced up every now and then
Oh, I know how well FSD works. I was just curious if AP works differently in Canada.

I think EAP could also park for you like FSD does.
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Interesting, from Kyle's video it seems like Autopilot changes lanes when you use the signal same as Distronic does in my car.
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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 12:13 PM
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Oh, I know how well FSD works. I was just curious if AP works differently in Canada.

I think EAP could also park for you like FSD does.
They offered it back in 2023 when I bought my Y for $6k. I don't remember if it offered parking, but I def didn't think it was worth the price just to switch lanes when you signaled. I think it was best they let that version go because it was a bit confusing, at the time I couldn't really differentiate between FSD and Enhanced Auto Pilot, and I'm sure others were confused as well
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Here's a comparison from back when we bought our Y:


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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Interesting, from Kyle's video it seems like Autopilot changes lanes when you use the signal
Whoever Kyle is, he's wrong.
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Here's a comparison from back when we bought our Y:

OK, now I remember
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Whoever Kyle is, he's wrong.
Kyle is most people 👍

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Originally Posted by Mike728
Whoever Kyle is, he's wrong.
Kyle:


I thought I saw him use the turn signal to change lanes but maybe not. Pretty wild my Mercedes does that and Tesla's Autopilot doesn't.
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I like Kyle, he gives good info, but the dude just goes on and on and on.......
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He does like to talk
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Old Jan 28, 2026 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I thought I saw him use the turn signal to change lanes but maybe not. Pretty wild my Mercedes does that and Tesla's Autopilot doesn't.
i've never used AP so don't really care, but in FSD you can still tell it to change lanes by tapping the turn signal. i do that when i think it's staying in the left lane too long.

also, AP is dead now so not relevant. and we can thank California for killing it.

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