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Jan 28, 2026 | 06:43 PM

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Mike728

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

also, AP is dead now so not relevant.

Not dead for those who have bought up to this point.

Jan 28, 2026 | 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

i've never used AP so don't really care, but in FSD you can still tell it to change lanes by tapping the turn signal. i do that when i think it's staying in the left lane too long.

also, AP is dead now so not relevant. and we can thank California for killing it.

https://youtu.be/Wvo-83unlYw?si=XtN4IBh56XL9oGjO

To be fair to California (birth place of Tesla 🙂 ) they could have probably just renamed it, but I suspect this was a purposeful strategy to kill AP off, push people into an FSD subscription and blame California

Jan 28, 2026 | 07:35 PM

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Yeah would have been easy to just rename it.

It’s a shame they won’t have at least lane centering without a subscription…on cars people have already bought that did have that feature.

Jan 29, 2026 | 04:12 AM

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Yeah would have been easy to just rename it.

It’s a shame they won’t have at least lane centering without a subscription…on cars people have already bought that did have that feature.

Autosteer was the name for lane centering and that worked reasonably well actually.

Looking at FSD subscription numbers, there are very small and disappointing - that's why they moved out of autosteer business because for most people autosteer was enough.
FSD is different beast where you completely lose control of the car - quite often that will not work where autosteer was good enough.

For instance, FSD works really good now in Europe in test drives, and it is million of years ahead of autosteer. BUT, you have very little control of it. For instance, at least here there are huge section of right lines on highway destroyed by trucks. So if there is no traffic, you will drive in left line or else your ride is going to be bumpy.

Autosteer worked amazingly for that. FSD will make you cancel it.

There is a lot of nuance there. It would have been great if they gave us Autosteer but with FSD software for instance.

In fact, nvidia+mb system will let you override temporarily both acceleration and steering without cancelling the drive.

Jan 29, 2026 | 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SW17LS

Yeah would have been easy to just rename it.

It’s a shame they won’t have at least lane centering without a subscription…on cars people have already bought that did have that feature.

The did rename it. So blaming California doesn't make any sense.

On their website, used Teslas still have autopilot. They changed it on the spec sheet to say "Traffic aware cruise control with auto steer".

Jan 29, 2026 | 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaze876

Yeah they did this for revenue, not for any other reason

Jan 29, 2026 | 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike728

Not dead for those who have bought up to this point.

oh i thought the feature was literally pulled off the market, not just for new cars.

Jan 29, 2026 | 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

oh i thought the feature was literally pulled off the market, not just for new cars.

Thats what I thought too

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Jan 29, 2026 | 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

oh i thought the feature was literally pulled off the market, not just for new cars.

My car still has Enhanced AP.

Jan 29, 2026 | 08:41 AM

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oh i thought the feature was literally pulled off the market, not just for new cars.

Since it was advertised with it when purchased, that would cause a class action lawsuit.

Jan 29, 2026 | 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

oh i thought the feature was literally pulled off the market, not just for new cars.

Nope, I still have have auto steer in both my Tesla's, I just don't have it enabled. If I had purchased Advanced AP, I would still have it. It's new cars coming out of the factory where it will not longer be a feature, at least that's what I've heard

Jan 29, 2026 | 09:08 AM

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Haha, my FSD subscription ended yesterday, and now I'm getting a free trial

Jan 29, 2026 | 02:48 PM

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I've said it before but I agree with Steve, until I can have the car completely drive itself to the same degree as if I was to the point I can be in the right rear seat I won't use the feature.

The effort required to front seat passenger and be ready to step in vs just driving myself is higher as I'm constantly wondering what it is going to do. It's like babysitting a new driver the whole time

Jan 29, 2026 | 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Striker223

I used it for over 1000 miles on my last trip to SoCal, and it made no mistakes, made it's way around slower traffic, drove better than every driver around me, and I didn't have to pay attention except for every now and then look at the road. For long trips, I will always pay $99 to use it. I would say try it yourself before coming to conclusions.

BTW there is no effort required, you just sit back and let the car do it's thing

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Jan 29, 2026 | 03:39 PM

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The only folks constantly repeating themselves over and over ad infinitum, about how pointless FSD is are the ones who don't own a Tesla.....

We get it loud and clear. Can we please move on? It's ok to think it's pointless, why repeat the same thing over and over again? 🤔