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Some back and forth the other day about the anti-EV propaganda out there and how it's often specifically designed to mislead and enrage. Thought this one was particularly stupid. It was shared by someone I know who really should know better...
Some back and forth the other day about the anti-EV propaganda out there and how it's often specifically designed to mislead and enrage. Thought this one was particularly stupid. It was shared by someone I know who really should know better...
there is a lot of propaganda made to make EVs look terrible, it is hard to believe that is not orchestrated by companies hurt by EV move.
At least on internet, people show a lot of passion about hating EVs, and I had one friends wife ask me yesterday if her car will explode next to mine.
Some back and forth the other day about the anti-EV propaganda out there and how it's often specifically designed to mislead and enrage. Thought this one was particularly stupd. It was shared by someone I know who really should know better...
Please forgive, this is not intended to offend anyone but I see two problems with this meme.
(1): it makes general assumptions of an EV buyer(feeling better about oneself) for buying an EV that may or may NOT be accurate aka a "cheap shot".
An argument should be made in its own merits, fail.
(2): paints a dishonest picture of the how the power consumption of an single EV is equivalent to the consumption of power of hundreds of houses.
That's all.
I'd have more respect if arguments stand on own merit. 🤓
PS, thank you @swajames for posting, I see stuff like this online all the time.
Last edited by Margate330; Jun 26, 2024 at 01:00 PM.
First of all, that meme is wrong in every way possible. Energy usage is in kWh, not kW. Also, the average house has either a 100 kW or 200 kW lines. Next, the average household in California uses 780 kWh per month.
On average, my Model Y uses 513 kWh a month, which is equivalent to 14 gallons of gas (a gallon of gasoline = 33.7 kWh). My sister in law who drives an Avalon Hybrid uses about that in a week. When I rented a Mustang GT (like in that pic) in San Antonio, I probably used that much in 2 days LoL🤣
The misinformation out there never ceases to astound me, it's a testament to our education system that someone would even entertain such absurdities
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Jun 26, 2024 at 01:08 PM.
Yes it's absolute rage bait, and as low-effort as it is, it will probably succeed in its primary mission because it just gets shared as is and without question.
The use of the Mustang is the frosting on the cake, though. As is the little "crusader" icon that "Dave Kellum" chose. As rage bait goes, this one is quite exquisitely insane.
Quick update on my wife’s 3. When she took it out of the garage for the tow truck, she was having issues with the windows not lowering when opening the doors. I’m 99% sure it’s going to be the right side body controller again. It was the same symptoms we ran into 2 years ago
Car's done. Repair cost = $645 + $270 for the tow. Here's where I'm a little upset. The resolution was that a loose ground was found in the right side body harness and the resolution was to remove and reinstall the right side body controller. The last people in the right side body harness was them. So, am I paying for a tow and repair because they didn't close things up properly when they did the last repair? I haven't received a response yet.
Car's done. Repair cost = $645 + $270 for the tow. Here's where I'm a little upset. The resolution was that a loose ground was found in the right side body harness and the resolution was to remove and reinstall the right side body controller. The last people in the right side body harness was them. So, am I paying for a tow and repair because they didn't close things up properly when they did the last repair? I haven't received a response yet.
That's not a lot of money thankfully, but I wouldn't pay it and fight it tooth and nail
Yes it is wrong to pay for their mistake but standard practice I see this over and over again car goes in for problem, isn't solved car goes back owner gets charged more. Rinse repeat. I've seen invoices for $3,000 and the problem is still there.
Negotiate a discount highly unlikely you'll get the entire invoice waved.
15 min of complaining and they refused to budge. Essentially it's been too long (original repair was Oct 2022), and they've seen loose connectors on 3s that hadn't had the same part repaired. Basically, we can't prove that it was the repair that led to the issue so they aren't going to eat the cost. They did take out and retighten everything attached to that body controller so it theoretically shouldn't happen again.
On another note, they had 4-5 delivered CTs that were in for service and one in the showroom to sit and play in. I still don't like the way it looks, but it's very solidly made. Seats were comfortable, screen responsiveness as impressive, and the tonneau cover was very smooth. I wouldn't buy one but I can admit it's got some appeal
15 min of complaining and they refused to budge. Essentially it's been too long (original repair was Oct 2022), and they've seen loose connectors on 3s that hadn't had the same part repaired. Basically, we can't prove that it was the repair that led to the issue so they aren't going to eat the cost. They did take out and retighten everything attached to that body controller so it theoretically shouldn't happen again.
On another note, they had 4-5 delivered CTs that were in for service and one in the showroom to sit and play in. I still don't like the way it looks, but it's very solidly made. Seats were comfortable, screen responsiveness as impressive, and the tonneau cover was very smooth. I wouldn't buy one but I can admit it's got some appeal
Disappointing for sure but doesn't surprise me since most dealers would have done the same thing. In my experience with Lexus back in the day they may have covered something like that as goodwill but I would bet most wouldn't. Regardless, seems like a lot of money for something that seems so simple but maybe the fix is more involved.
First of all, that meme is wrong in every way possible. Energy usage is in kWh, not kW. Also, the average house has either a 100 kW or 200 kW lines. Next, the average household in California uses 780 kWh per month.
#factcheckonaisle2
energy usage at any point in time is measured in kW, not kWh. 1kWh is 1kW used or produced for 1 hour, or it could be 10kW for 1/10th of an hour or 6 minutes. high speed DC chargers are measured in kW, not kWh. so a 350kW charger can deliver 35kWh of recharging in 6 minutes theoretically.
On average, my Model Y uses 513 kWh a month, which is equivalent to 14 gallons of gas (a gallon of gasoline = 33.7 kWh).
how is a gallon = 33.7kWh? i guess that's the amount of energy in a gallon of gas, but ice engines are so inefficient they don't get to use that amount of energy (most is lost in heat, etc). 33.7kWh is almost half my car's battery of about 130mi. of driving. 1 gallon of gas in a reg car is what, 30miles?
Disappointing for sure but doesn't surprise me since most dealers would have done the same thing. In my experience with Lexus back in the day they may have covered something like that as goodwill but I would bet most wouldn't. Regardless, seems like a lot of money for something that seems so simple but maybe the fix is more involved.
All in all a little under 3 hours of work. I basically told them where to look so at least I saved on some diagnostics. Getting to the controller, testing, and reinstalling was like 90 min. I'll post the invoice when I'm at a computer tomorrow
energy usage at any point in time is measured in kW, not kWh. 1kWh is 1kW used or produced for 1 hour, or it could be 10kW for 1/10th of an hour or 6 minutes. high speed DC chargers are measured in kW, not kWh. so a 350kW charger can deliver 35kWh of recharging in 6 minutes theoretically.
how is a gallon = 33.7kWh? i guess that's the amount of energy in a gallon of gas, but ice engines are so inefficient they don't get to use that amount of energy (most is lost in heat, etc). 33.7kWh is almost half my car's battery of about 130mi. of driving. 1 gallon of gas in a reg car is what, 30miles?
nope, your first image says what i said in another way.
and your second image is equivalent in terms of heat generation from burning gasoline. yes ice depends on combustion but it's very lossy. as i said 33.7kWh ev charge can go a heck of a lot further than a car go on one gallon.
also you wrote: the average house has either a 100 kW or 200 kW lines.
i've not heard it ever expressed that way and don't think that's true either. homes typically have 100 or 200 AMP service. now because W = V * A you can say that 120V @ 200A which is 24kW delivery or 24kWh PER HOUR. or 240v @ 200A would be 48kW.
Last edited by bitkahuna; Jun 27, 2024 at 09:49 PM.
