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Sobering quote:
"If every new car sold in the world in 2035 were electric, oil demand in 2050 would still be 85 million barrels per day. That's the same as it was in 2010."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ly-Crisis.html
"If every new car sold in the world in 2035 were electric, oil demand in 2050 would still be 85 million barrels per day. That's the same as it was in 2010."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ly-Crisis.html
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Sobering quote:
"If every new car sold in the world in 2035 were electric, oil demand in 2050 would still be 85 million barrels per day. That's the same as it was in 2010."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ly-Crisis.html
"If every new car sold in the world in 2035 were electric, oil demand in 2050 would still be 85 million barrels per day. That's the same as it was in 2010."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ly-Crisis.html
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Oh, I'm definitely saying it 
There are still more buyers that want things like buttons and *****, fobs and start buttons. And there are buyers that want luxury, and of course, there are buyers that still want an Internal Combustion Engine with all the gears and sounds etc. Tesla satisfies one particular niche, the all around family/commuter/trip car that's fairly inexpensive, reliable and yes, fun. I think I can safely say that if you live in an area with lots of charging and have the ability to charge at home and are in the market for a Camry, Accord, Civic, Rav4 etc and you don't buy a Tesla, I feel bad for you.
There are still more buyers that want things like buttons and *****, fobs and start buttons. And there are buyers that want luxury, and of course, there are buyers that still want an Internal Combustion Engine with all the gears and sounds etc. Tesla satisfies one particular niche, the all around 
You certainly have a valid point but you don't need to feel bad for me. 
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. And I totally disagree. The Model Y has been a great family and trip car, in fact one of the best I've owned. The Sienna is only slightly better because of all the extra space. My daughter just took it for a trip to SoCal for the weekend
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Sobering quote:
"If every new car sold in the world in 2035 were electric, oil demand in 2050 would still be 85 million barrels per day. That's the same as it was in 2010."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ly-Crisis.html
"If every new car sold in the world in 2035 were electric, oil demand in 2050 would still be 85 million barrels per day. That's the same as it was in 2010."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ly-Crisis.html
The financial burden should be on companies to develop solutions and get government grants not increasing energy costs, gas prices and banning gas cars and stoves.
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Unfortunately all this “going green nonsense” is just a hidden tax on general public with zero accountability where the investment is going.
The financial burden should be on companies to develop solutions and get government grants not increasing energy costs, gas prices and banning gas cars and stoves.
The financial burden should be on companies to develop solutions and get government grants not increasing energy costs, gas prices and banning gas cars and stoves.
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The reports are actually saying that the next S-Class EV and ICE will still be on separate platforms, just that they'll more or less look the same on the outside.
Benz made a bizarre miscalculation in their research thinking that cab-forward Civic look would be appealing to the Chinese market when in reality it doesn't appeal to anyone. Though if I'm being honest, this is also a reflection of the fact that like other Asian countries, the Chinese are now preferring their own domestic makes instead of foreign OEM's and so there's less and less incentive to invest in the Chinese market and appeal to Chinese tastes compared to even 5 years ago.
Benz made a bizarre miscalculation in their research thinking that cab-forward Civic look would be appealing to the Chinese market when in reality it doesn't appeal to anyone. Though if I'm being honest, this is also a reflection of the fact that like other Asian countries, the Chinese are now preferring their own domestic makes instead of foreign OEM's and so there's less and less incentive to invest in the Chinese market and appeal to Chinese tastes compared to even 5 years ago.
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If Norway can get to 90% + new vehicle sales being EV then there is no excuse for the rest of us. China will likely be at 45% by the end of 2024. United States should be very concerned, lagging behind means giving Chinese auto makers even more time to refine their technology and drive costs down. Tariffs won't save you in the long term.
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LOL Norway Norway, god I wish people would shut up about it.
Norway is not the United States. They are two very different countries with vastly different kinds of people.
They tax SUGAR INTAKE there for gods sake, that is absolutely absurd.
Norway is not the United States. They are two very different countries with vastly different kinds of people.
They tax SUGAR INTAKE there for gods sake, that is absolutely absurd.
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Now explain China they are going to be over 50% by the end of the year I under estimated. BTW the Untied States has an ample supply of oil. Not going electric is a big bunch of excuses nothing more.
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