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The program I mentioned yesterday is different from this one, if I remember it was limited to older cars from the 90's, but I'm verifying that with my nephew. I think it was a California program
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All I’m saying is a program like this would work if the goal was to get people to replace ICE cars with EVs and to put more EVs vs ICE cars on the road.
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But if you look at its stated goals, it was a huge success. The whole point was to get people buying cars, and to make the average car on the road safer and more efficient. It worked.
All I’m saying is a program like this would work if the goal was to get people to replace ICE cars with EVs and to put more EVs vs ICE cars on the road.
All I’m saying is a program like this would work if the goal was to get people to replace ICE cars with EVs and to put more EVs vs ICE cars on the road.
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Already there are third party shops that work on Tesla's. A friend of mine bought a 2015 Model S and had the battery pack
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And again, battery failure after 10 years is not at all a foregone conclusion.
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How long do you think the batteries last and still can hold charge and be recharged at a decent timeframe? I don’t think there is much data yet on this.
There are a ton of clapped out Civics, Camrys, Accords, old Tacoma trucks etc still running around all over the US that are 30 + years old. Millions of people can’t afford an expensive car. It would also be total waste of resources if an EV didn’t have a lifespan of at least 25-30yrs.
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How long do you think the batteries last and still can hold charge and be recharged at a decent timeframe? I don’t think there is much data yet on this.
There are a ton of clapped out Civics, Camrys, Accords, old Tacoma trucks etc still running around all over the US that are 30 + years old. Millions of people can’t afford an expensive car. It would also be total waste of resources if an EV didn’t have a lifespan of at least 25-30yrs.
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I think batteries are a concern, even for hybrids. People had that as their number one concern about buying such vehicles (and I do too, with my Prius now in its 15th year and 172k miles!).
In hybrids, the costs to replace batteries is fairly low nowadays, maybe $800 to $1000 or so, but the much larger batteries of BEV have been reported to cost higher than $20,000, so it's def something to consider.
Right now, given that BEV are somewhat new and most cars have new batteries, data on when batteries fail is probably still rare and still somewhat anecdotal, but a quick search of youtube shows that it does happen. In one case, a guy with 100k on his had to replace 2 times already.
This one had to replace it after only 64k miles, which is pretty bad imo.
Anyways, to ICE people, battery life and cost of replacement is probably a big concern when they consider buying any electric vehicle (whether HEV, PHEV, or BEV). It's just one of those things that people will need to take a leap and finally learn that it's not THAT bad.
In hybrids, the costs to replace batteries is fairly low nowadays, maybe $800 to $1000 or so, but the much larger batteries of BEV have been reported to cost higher than $20,000, so it's def something to consider.
Right now, given that BEV are somewhat new and most cars have new batteries, data on when batteries fail is probably still rare and still somewhat anecdotal, but a quick search of youtube shows that it does happen. In one case, a guy with 100k on his had to replace 2 times already.
This one had to replace it after only 64k miles, which is pretty bad imo.
Anyways, to ICE people, battery life and cost of replacement is probably a big concern when they consider buying any electric vehicle (whether HEV, PHEV, or BEV). It's just one of those things that people will need to take a leap and finally learn that it's not THAT bad.
