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Is the third row actually usable in these? I’ve used them in the GX470, GX460, and LX570. It absolutely sucked. I rode in the back of an LX for a work trip and it was so small. Perfect for little kids that didn’t need need car seats or boosters.
Recall how everyone complained that Toyota is behind the times with their lack of turbo offerings? Lack of EVs and only going with hybrids? Well, as the saying goes, becareful what you wish for and in hindsight, Toyota is completely correct.
I completely disagree. Like I said Toyota makes a fine appliance, but nothing to move me as an enthusiast. Hybrids don't move us. EVs are the future. I look at this TX and it truly does absolutely nothing for me. I would buy one over a minivan but thats about it.
I'd direct everyone to go to the lower middle to poor areas of their own and count how many BEVs you see. I haven't seen any.
Hybrids aren't expensive like BEVs.
Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that (at least in my area) those are also the areas less likely to have garages and/or places to put a charger.
Folks remain unlikely to buy a Bolt EUV for $25k or lease a Mini SE for $239/mo if they can't charge it at home. In an era where the average new car is $48k, those are both very cheap.
The only current Lexus products that look like they might be enjoyable to drive are the LC500 and RC-F. Maybe the IS500 but that's not long for this world.
The ES is for retirees. The RX is also for retirees but is also Lexus's answer to a contest to design the most soulless crossover you've ever seen.
Honestly, I think Toyota/Lexus and Tesla share some similarities in the customer base in that Toyota/Lexus draws heavily from people who don't like cars, and Tesla also has a large amount of people who aren't really car people, but are tech people that were drawn to a techy car.
Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that (at least in my area) those are also the areas less likely to have garages and/or places to put a charger.
Folks remain unlikely to buy a Bolt EUV for $25k or lease a Mini SE for $239/mo if they can't charge it at home. In an era where the average new car is $48k, those are both very cheap.
But at any rate, back to the TX.
And it could also be that EVs are expensive and typically new and shocker, people in low income places can't afford them or the improvements to their homes necessary to charge them.
Honestly, I think Toyota/Lexus and Tesla share some similarities in the customer base in that Toyota/Lexus draws heavily from people who don't like cars, and Tesla also has a large amount of people who aren't really car people, but are tech people that were drawn to a techy car.
I read an article once that said more people go from Toyota and Lexus to Tesla than any other brand.
And it could also be that EVs are expensive and typically new and shocker, people in low income places can't afford them or the improvements to their homes necessary to charge them.
Correct, tell me something I don't know. Do you not see my point here?
About the TX, the colors really make a difference. I saw one today (can't remember exactly what color) and it didn't look as good as that grey one with the black wheels I posted a couple weeks back.
I wonder what is the maximum height comfortable in the 3rd row of the TX?
5' 7", 5' 3", or 4' 11"?
The high riding SUV's 3rd row is basically for children, or small adults at best?
According to my analysis, SUV 3rd rows compromize 3rd row vertical space for a higher ground clearance for off-road ability.
The MPV has a lower ground clearance and even flat floor for greater vertical space in the 3rd row.
Meanwhile the 3-row SUV has bigger rolling diameter tires and a higher rear transaxle for a higher ground clearance resulting in a stepped-up 3rd floor which compromizes 3rd floor vertical space like the Audi Q7 below.
These days, family sizes are smaller than ever, hence SUV's with compact 3rd rows with higher ground clearance and off-road ability are much more popular than MPV's with spacious 3rd rows with low ground clearance.
Last edited by peteharvey; Dec 22, 2023 at 10:19 PM.
I wonder what is the maximum height comfortable in the 3rd row of the TX? 5' 7", 5' 3", or 4' 11"?
The high riding SUV's 3rd row is basically for children, or small adults at best?
According to my analysis, SUV 3rd rows compromize 3rd row vertical space for a higher ground clearance for off-road ability.
The MPV has a flat floor for greater vertical space, while the 3-row SUV has a higher ground clearance with stepped-up 3rd floor compromizing 3rd floor vertical space like the Audi Q7 below.
These days, family sizes are smaller than ever, hence SUV's with compact 3rd rows with off-road ability are much more popular than MPV's with spacious 3rd rows.
It’s true, the 3rd row is comfortable for adults, taller than 5’7. Look at some reviews on YouTube.
It’s true, the 3rd row is comfortable for adults, taller than 5’7. Look at some reviews on YouTube.
In the photo below, Alex is 6', hence TX is comfortable for 5' 9"?
However, the TX's 3rd row floor still looks too high, hence Alex's knees are kicked-up.
Furthermore, SUV's have very large rolling diameter fat tires for high ground clearance, hence the 3rd row seat base is between the SUV's wheel arches.
On the other hand, MPV's have small tire diameters for smaller and narrower wheelarches, with the 3rd row seat bases often on top of the rear wheel arches for 3 at the back, rather than between the rear wheel arches for only 2 seats at the 3rd row.
Last edited by peteharvey; Dec 22, 2023 at 10:46 PM.
In the photo below, Alex is 6', hence TX is comfortable for 5' 9"?
However, the TX's 3rd row floor still looks too high, hence Alex's knees are kicked-up.
Furthermore, SUV's have very large rolling diameter fat tires for high ground clearance, hence the 3rd row seat base is between the SUV's wheel arches.
On the other hand, MPV's have small tire diameters for smaller and narrower wheelarches, with the 3rd row seat bases often on top of the rear wheel arches for 3 at the back, rather than between the rear wheel arches for only 2 seats at the 3rd row.
I believe that’s with the 2nd all the way back in its track. Correct me if I’m wrong but whenever he test the 2nd and 3rd row from the passenger side, the seat in front of it is always in its furthest back position.
Last edited by BayeauxLex; Dec 22, 2023 at 11:07 PM.
