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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350
Any chance this smiley face making machine has the torque vectoring AWD and dct Lexus has been hinting at implementing?
From the videos it sounds like a regular auto (slow shifts) but I could be wrong.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 08:12 AM
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Finally a coupe. Too bad I'm looking to get out of my current coupe and into a sedan (GS).

I hope this thing has the GS interior, at least in terms of build/material quality.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 08:58 AM
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awesome. thanks for posting up the video!
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by UpSideDown
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/569...on-the-horizon

Looks like no more V8 for the new IS-F. Maybe it will be the same for this model too?
Listen to it, it is a variant of today's 5.0L V8
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350
Any chance this smiley face making machine has the torque vectoring AWD and dct Lexus has been hinting at implementing?
Not a DCT, it is a torque converter. DCT have a very distinct urgent instant shift sounds, this is a fast torque converter just like today's IS-F's 8-speeds. The shifts aren't slow, just not instant like a DCT.

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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Incredible video! I'm glad they were able to catch it in action. Looks promising as far as performance, I'm sure I'll like the looks when it's de-camoflauged.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Not a DCT, it is a torque converter. DCT have a very distinct urgent instant shift sounds, this is a fast torque converter just like today's IS-F's 8-speeds.
Precisely. Known to the VAG community as DSG farts.

Personally, I'd prefer a real manual for a car like this but would be willing to consider if it had a DCT.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Koma
Precisely. Known to the VAG community as DSG farts.

Personally, I'd prefer a real manual for a car like this but would be willing to consider if it had a DCT.
All dual clutch farts the same way, DSG, DCT, PDK, F1...........I was just at a BMW event listening to the F10 M5 farting all day

After driving a manual for 20 years daily, now I just want a DCT in my sports car.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Listen to it, it is a variant of today's 5.0L V8
I know. The test car sounds just like the IS-F. I just find it strange that the chief engineer says there will be no more V8 in the next gen IS-F due to it doesn't meet the euro 6 requirement, and then you hear that engine in coming coupe.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by UpSideDown
I know. The test car sounds just like the IS-F. I just find it strange that the chief engineer says there will be no more V8 in the next gen IS-F due to it doesn't meet the euro 6 requirement, and then you hear that engine in coming coupe.
You can never believe what those guys say, he didn't say no more V8, he just said "is a little difficult to meet Euro 6", maybe they got it to pass smog afterall. Making the old V8 pass smog is easier then making a whole new TT V6!

Multiple sources is saying it is a V8 and this video confirmed it, I am happy

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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
You can never believe what those guys say, he didn't say no more V8, he just said "is a little difficult to meet Euro 6", maybe they got it to pass smog.

Multiple sources is saying it is a V8 and this video confirmed it, I am happy
who knows how they translate stuff, usually everything japanese goes through translator and ends up completely opposite..

it is pretty obvious that it is NA V8
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
who knows how they translate stuff, usually everything japanese goes through translator and ends up completely opposite..

it is pretty obvious that it is NA V8
LOL! That is so true, of course all that with a little bit of author's twist like what he/she would love to see as end product.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
not sure why spy articles are saying reveal in november at the tokyo auto show but sale a year later in late 2014? that doesnt make sense
How does that not make sense?
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by natnut
...With BMW taking so many backward steps in handling and driver engagement, this generation may well be the pivotal moment when the M3/M4 is toppled from its throne and the Lexus RC-F could be the car to do it.
LOL, dream on. But I like the way you are thinking...
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
I am with him on that, although is not a regular thing, I have seen quite a few M3's window sticker in the $85k~$95k range. You are correct, if you add up every "regular" packages, options and accessories, it maxed out at $79k.

But BMW can farther customize the car with their individual program with special paint, interior trims...........then there is a list of 14 M performance accessories that the dealer can add onto the car, louder muffler, lip spoiler, steering wheel..........those parts are very expensive, I think if you add up everything, it can be over $100k. Those $90k car just got a few selected items added on. Because not many sane people would pay $100k for a M3.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...=E92M&cat=1009
Very rare to find an M3 that will option out over $90k, I recently did a search for new M3's on Autotrader for the entire country and only found one M3 over $90k
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