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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
^I think they've tried pretty hard to cover them up, but I am betting on a disconnected DRL ala 3IS.
I am guessing the same thing.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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Good to see this RC at the ring

Nice render too
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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Forget turbocharged V6 and forget the IS F Coupe. 460 HP V8 RC F is coming!

https://www.clublexus.com/articles/i...8-rc-f-yay.php

Lexus RC Facts & Speculation:

IS & GS Based Coupe
3 Models/Engine Choices - 1 Hybrid, 2 Petrol
  • 2.5L? I4 220 HP? - 2AR-FXE?
  • 3.5L V6 306 HP - 2GR-FSE?
  • 5.0L? V8 460 HP - 2UR-GSE?

Lexus RC Debut Timeline:

2013 Tokyo Motor Show:
RC 350 - Global
RC (300h?) Hybrid - Europe & Japan Only

2014 NAIAS Detroit:
RC F - 2014 NAIAS Detroit (Global)
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
Lol, $90k? Yeah right. M3's MSRP for $60k and even with the premium package selected and picking every option and accessory they offer, you max out at $79k. How do I know? Because I priced one out on their website. Sounds like you are just pulling that number out your ***.
I am with him on that, although is not a regular thing, I have seen quite a few M3's window sticker in the $85k~$95k range. You are correct, if you add up every "regular" packages, options and accessories, it maxed out at $79k.

But BMW can farther customize the car with their individual program with special paint, interior trims...........then there is a list of 14 M performance accessories that the dealer can add onto the car, louder muffler, lip spoiler, steering wheel..........those parts are very expensive, I think if you add up everything, it can be over $100k. Those $90k car just got a few selected items added on. Because not many sane people would pay $100k for a M3.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...=E92M&cat=1009

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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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very much looking forward to this car. 460hp and there is high hope on gsf and other cars to come. so far the rcf looks very nice, can't wait!
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Vh_Supra26
Wouldn't that be the LFA
The LFA is a once in 20 years exotic project, it doesn't count in their regularly scheduled line up.

Originally Posted by Vh_Supra26
Past SC has shared platforms with GS, Supra, and ect. A Lexus official has said this car will be build on a brand new platform.

I always though of the SC as a E-Class coupe (CLK) and 6-Series competitor. I think Lexus should make a GS coupe and slap the SC name on it

With the LF-LC it seems that Lexus wants to go after the S-Class coupe (CL), that new BMW 8-Series, Aston Martin DB9, Bentley Continental GT, Rolls-Royce Wraith and ect.
The SC430 in the later years got REALLY outdated as they never updated it and the competitor upgraded a huge amount over the years, so it looks really out class at the end. But when it first came out in 2002-2004, it was in the V8 flagship segment, look at this comparison it was in, it was compared with the Cadillac XLR, Jaguar XK8, MB SL500, 911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests

This new SC/LF-LC will be back into that segment, MB SL/CL, BMW 6/8, Audi V8 R8......etc.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
closeups show that they are separated (other pics)... car looks very nice IMHO.
Not so sure. Unless they are masking stand alone DRLs with some plexiglas piece to me it looks like a single sphere shaped housing. That same piece is under camo as well on non Ring running car.

Well who knows at this point.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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This looks big, and with 2 prototypes sporting GS taillights, it may be slotted above the GS, with a 50k starting price.

Lexus needs an affordable entry level coupe

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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Forget turbocharged V6 and forget the IS F Coupe. 460 HP V8 RC F is coming!

https://www.clublexus.com/articles/i...8-rc-f-yay.php

Lexus RC Facts & Speculation:

IS & GS Based Coupe
3 Models/Engine Choices - 1 Hybrid, 2 Petrol
  • 2.5L? I4 220 HP? - 2AR-FXE?
  • 3.5L V6 306 HP - 2GR-FSE?
  • 5.0L? V8 460 HP - 2UR-GSE?
As earlier stated, the 2UR-GSE V8 engine is to old and old fashioned to meet new emission standards in many countries. Besides that, I have driven both the IS-F, the lateset M5 V8 biturbo and Nissan GTR .The 2UR-GSE engine is like a decade after in almost everything except the noise. Lexus can`t compete with that engine. It will be game over from day one .
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Bond
As earlier stated, the 2UR-GSE V8 engine is to old and old fashioned to meet new emission standards in many countries. Besides that, I have driven both the IS-F, the lateset M5 V8 biturbo and Nissan GTR .The 2UR-GSE engine is like a decade after in almost everything except the noise. Lexus can`t compete with that engine. It will be game over from day one .
it would be against M3/M4 not a lot more powerful M5.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Forget turbocharged V6 and forget the IS F Coupe. 460 HP V8 RC F is coming!

https://www.clublexus.com/articles/i...8-rc-f-yay.php

Lexus RC Facts & Speculation:

IS & GS Based Coupe
3 Models/Engine Choices - 1 Hybrid, 2 Petrol
  • 2.5L? I4 220 HP? - 2AR-FXE?
  • 3.5L V6 306 HP - 2GR-FSE?
  • 5.0L? V8 460 HP - 2UR-GSE?

Lexus RC Debut Timeline:

2013 Tokyo Motor Show:
RC 350 - Global
RC (300h?) Hybrid - Europe & Japan Only

2014 NAIAS Detroit:
RC F - 2014 NAIAS Detroit (Global)
any inside news on that or merely speculation? Also 2.0t?
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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U.S. Market.....

2014 IS 350 Fsport + ML/Nav = $49,000.

It seems there will not be a coupe equivalent in the RC segment.

RC 350 (same motor as IS/GS but no FSport option?)
RC 350 F (elite motor thus pushing price tag at $70K or higher) 2013 ISF loaded is $66/67K.

My fear is popping for 2014 IS350Fsport now... spending $50K... and missing out on something special with the RC (base). The motor appears to be the same but the tech/interior may be worth the wait?

RC F is out of my price range just like the IS F so I'm not stressing that. If the RC 350 is going to be modeled after that LF-CC then that alone may be worth the wait.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by unc879wins
U.S. Market.....

2014 IS 350 Fsport + ML/Nav = $49,000.

It seems there will not be a coupe equivalent in the RC segment.

RC 350 (same motor as IS/GS but no FSport option?)
RC 350 F (elite motor thus pushing price tag at $70K or higher) 2013 ISF loaded is $66/67K.

My fear is popping for 2014 IS350Fsport now... spending $50K... and missing out on something special with the RC (base). The motor appears to be the same but the tech/interior may be worth the wait?

RC F is out of my price range just like the IS F so I'm not stressing that. If the RC 350 is going to be modeled after that LF-CC then that alone may be worth the wait.
interior is likely to be 95% the same.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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95% of LF-CC concept or 95% of existing IS?
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by unc879wins
95% of LF-CC concept or 95% of existing IS?
existing IS... look at the spy pics, you can see that interior is the same as 3IS. There will likely be small changes that cant be seen on small pics though.
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