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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Buddiiee
There's NO WAY IN HELL that tiny little turbo 4 cylinder could match the power AND reliability (because it's Toyota AND NON turbo) of the IS350's engine. Plus all the knock you gotta worry about in the hot summer months with a forced induction car; screw that. The proven IS350's bulletproof drivetrain is more powerful and has mature technology, plus there's no turbo lag. There's ZERO comparison between those two cars. If you wanted more horse from the 350 put headers, a tune and lightweight wheels on it and turn it into a totally different car.
A Honda SI only makes 250 wtq at 350whp with a bolt on turbo kit. You would ask why is the torque so low, it’s a direct relation to compression. We have a very capable engine at 300whp our wtq would DESTROY a v6 and smoke a v8 off the line. 350wtq will get you into trouble quick, a is350 isn’t anymore stronger than a v6 camero or mustang which is why a lot of people buy tuner cars. Who’s to say we have to stop at 300whp either
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:28 AM
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Just as a fun fact, I am kind of looking at what my next car will be. Interested in the Camry hybrid for 2018. It does 0-60 in 6.9s. Just like our IS200Ts (the 2016 model anyway--the 2017 is slower). However, the Camry Hybrid will get 52mpg street where as my IS200T, despite the same 0-60 time gets 15-16 mpg street (in my bumper to bumper commutes)

Hmm.....
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:31 AM
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Just as a fun fact, I am kind of looking at what my next car will be. Interested in the Camry hybrid for 2018. It does 0-60 in 6.9s. Just like our IS200Ts (the 2016 model anyway--the 2017 is slower). However, the Camry Hybrid will get 52mpg street where as my IS200T, despite the same 0-60 time gets 15-16 mpg street (in my bumper to bumper commutes)

Hmm.....
Camry sounds like a winner
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:33 AM
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Yeah I like the Accord Hybrid but I'm not sure it's coming out for a while. Most of my commute is heavy traffic so the IS is not seeing much use. I'll think about it but the Camry hybrid accelerates the same as my car but gets bonkers better gas mileage.

Of course I won't have the cool red seats. lol. but i do like all the new tech the new cars have like the Toyota Sense and radar cruise control.
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
Yeah I like the Accord Hybrid but I'm not sure it's coming out for a while. Most of my commute is heavy traffic so the IS is not seeing much use. I'll think about it but the Camry hybrid accelerates the same as my car but gets bonkers better gas mileage.

Of course I won't have the cool red seats. lol. but i do like all the new tech the new cars have like the Toyota Sense and radar cruise control.
Lol ya i hear ya but the camry is the right thing to do in ur situation....althou in ur shoes i would still go for the IS coz i never care about mpg ��
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nuke
Lol ya i hear ya but the camry is the right thing to do in ur situation....althou in ur shoes i would still go for the IS coz i never care about mpg ��
the Gas there is cheap....
i dont care much abkut the MPG too because......my wife pay for it.lol
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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It's not really about cost. It just feels dumb sitting burning all that gas. I bought the Turbo IS because I thought it would get 28 city like my friend's 328 does. but nope. lol. 21 at best. and 15 during commutes. Live and learn. It feels good sitting in traffic in a hybrid because you're not needlessly pissing gas away. Plus no performance penalty in a Camry hybrid. Seriously has me thinking!

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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
It's not really about cost. It just feels dumb sitting burning all that gas. I bought the Turbo IS because I thought it would get 28 city like my friend's 328 does. but nope. lol. 21 at best. and 15 during commutes. Live and learn. It feels good sitting in traffic in a hybrid because you're not needlessly pissing gas away. Plus no performance penalty in a Camry hybrid. Seriously has me thinking!

Absolutely valid points more reason to go for it
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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Recommended new Thread Name: "Every other car's comparison to the IS200t Platform" All in favor say 'I".
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheddy
This thread has gone in a total different direction.
We are all looking for the best possible tuning solution. TTI Stage 2 has given us decent power gains along with a smooth driving experience, but we knew that there were still space for more. Stage 2+ was supposed to fill that void, but unfortunately from the dyno results it didn't live up to the expectation even with all the added bolt ons. I still do believe that more can be done, but we also have to understand that without data logging and dyno tuning its hard to get maximum power safely. We will have to wait and see what TTI does and also OV has informed me that they are working on something new for next year. As of now i need a new vacuum regulator (getting highly annoying ) and i'll be using the BMS piggyback again, but this time i want to see how it performs with my bolt ons.
Back to the topic on hand...

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Recommended new Thread Name: "Every other car's comparison to the IS200t Platform" All in favor say 'I".
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Z3R00
Recommended new Thread Name: "Every other car's comparison to the IS200t Platform" All in favor say 'I".
We should link up if you’re in AZ. Pavs?
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Folks let’s keep this thread on topic. Start a new thread or post in an existing one in car chat for other vehicle comparisons, use private message for local chat and keep the personal comments out of the thread please.
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Back to stock tune and added the BMS Stage 1, but I still need to replace the vacuum regulator before I can actually put the BMS to work. Hopefully I can get the part replaced next week. I’ll keep you guys posted.


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Originally Posted by Sheddy
Back to stock tune and added the BMS Stage 1, but I still need to replace the vacuum regulator before I can actually put the BMS to work. Hopefully I can get the part replaced next week. I’ll keep you guys posted.


You’ll definitely feel a difference
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by daniellina
I mean i'm not looking for some crazy numbers or for stuff that can't be done i only want results. more so after all this bolt ons. so dyno tune will be because if you dont get a proper tune or something that gives you actual results the bolt ons dont make any sense.
You tried the BMS piggyback right ?. The bms sure gives results to the n20 and gave sheddy a good amount of torque but not even more 5whp. so... idk lets see but most likely dynotune will be the answer and then we'll see real results.
Yeah I’ve been running bms stage one and OV’s reflash together. Bms bumps boost by about 2 psi ontop of the reflash so I end up hitting about 19-20 psi combined. Bms says that’s because of the lack of fuel/throttle/timing/cam/tq maps. If Bms came out with the Jb4 for our 200t it would have all the sensors we need instead of only boost
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