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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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edit 2: added links to first page for people to reference. Note I only mention problems where multiple people reported. not one-off incidents. So the links are just 1 of more or many posts out there.
Seriously just get rid of your car already so we don't have to read your "German everything is the best....Lexus will start to fail" BS posts.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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Seriously just get rid of your car already so we don't have to read your "German everything is the best....Lexus will start to fail" BS posts.
Correction: cars. I have two new Lexuses.

Everything fails in this class of luxo-tech era, Sorry you got mad-didn't mean to
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stwrldprb
Are there DIY instructions on doing these repairs? So far no problems with mine but I'd like to be prepared. Door lock actuator seems like something I could probably do myself.
the 3IS is a fairly new community with fairly new chassis so naturally there won't be many DIYs out. This is where brave souls will have to come in and pioneer some.

I agree though you can do the actuator yourself. i've done them on other cars. along w/ window regulators. all simple stuff
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
Correction: cars. I have two new Lexuses.

Everything fails in this class of luxo-tech era, Sorry you got mad-didn't mean to
I'm not mad. Just tired of seeing all of your the sky is falling type posts. It's some strange feeble attempt to put your godly German vehicles up on a pedestal. Keep going though, it doesn't bother me.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:19 AM
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I have double the Lexus. If anything, I have the double incentive to boast about the thing I invested in.

I call it like it is. No fanboy. I go on the BMW forums and call it like it is on there and praise Lexus. But I also praise Hyundai, or Ford, or whoever else deserves it. It's just car talk. I don't do the blind allegiance thing, sorry. I don't do sports teams or colors when it comes to objective topics. No tribal, no gangs.

If everyone can say something good about every brand, then the car community would benefit. instead of getting mad when someone says something about your team (or colors) you don't agree with.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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I have double the Lexus. If anything, I have the double incentive to boast about the thing I invested in.

I call it like it is. No fanboy. I go on the BMW forums and call it like it is on there and praise Lexus. But I also praise Hyundai, or Ford, or whoever else deserves it. It's just car talk. I don't do the blind allegiance thing, sorry. I don't do sports teams or colors when it comes to objective topics. No tribal, no gangs.

If everyone can say something good about every brand, then the car community would benefit. instead of getting mad when someone says something about your team (or colors) you don't agree with.
You don't call it like it is. You call it as if it's fact. A few people complain about a mirror issue, and you make statements like things are heating up in terms of reliability, and the torch is being passed to Lexus (making an assumption that reliability has tanked). You know as well as I do that is not the case. There's a reason why Toyota/Lexus are always at the top of the reliability lists. Not saying that things don't fail, but to create this fear mongering that the tide has somehow turned, is just stupid.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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I'll just say this - it would be silly to think any car would have zero issues when it gets into the vicinity of 70,000 miles. Every part, mechanical or electronic, wears over time and will fail eventually. I think the intent of this thread is not creating fear but documenting when and how the failures will occur.
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I've come from a history of owning BMW's and Mercedes. Mercedes is more reliable than BMW, BMW is terrible. I still own one as a "toy" but I intentionally bought a Lexus for reliability and low cost maintenance. So far, Lexus has not let me down and I'm at 80K on my 2016 is200t. 80k in a BMW would require window regulators, control arm bushings, a water pump (or maybe even coolant expansion tank since the entire cooling system is plastic), probably a few check engine lights, maybe a high pressure fuel pump, intake valve carbon cleaning. My is200t has needed literally 0 repairs, just scheduled maintenance and hopefully it will continue to take me to 200k miles with minimal repairs. I do find that the tires wear out in ~15-20k miles but I was warned by that with a sticker on the window.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stwrldprb
Are there DIY instructions on doing these repairs? So far no problems with mine but I'd like to be prepared. Door lock actuator seems like something I could probably do myself.
The door lock actuators are actually a pain. I haven't had any issues on my 3IS so I haven't messed with them. There is a DIY for the 2IS that I referenced years ago. I'm sure there is some slight differences but it should pretty much all be similar. This covers opening the actuator and replacing the little $10 motor inside, but you could just replace the entire unit if you don't want to open it up.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...or-repair.html
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Originally Posted by Burrcold
You don't call it like it is. You call it as if it's fact. A few people complain about a mirror issue, and you make statements like things are heating up in terms of reliability, and the torch is being passed to Lexus (making an assumption that reliability has tanked). You know as well as I do that is not the case. There's a reason why Toyota/Lexus are always at the top of the reliability lists. Not saying that things don't fail, but to create this fear mongering that the tide has somehow turned, is just stupid.
hahaha exactly, always German this and that crap with that guy, always talks down to people and assumes he is always right.



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hey E46CT. Wanna know where I get my info on German cars? If you want to talk about the two Lexus you own like its a big deals.

i have owned and modified
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that’s just the German cars and that’s not mentioning the 38 cars I have owned.

Get over yourself, you think your being helpful but most of the time your biased and pompous. All cars have issue, some worst then others. The sky is not falling when your auto dimming mirror brakes, on the contrary the sky is falling when the BMW SMG fails on the highway at 80mpg or when the subframe of the E46 decides to give out because god forbid you take it out and launch it.
You see there are people with automotive experience on this board that don’t claim to know everything even though they might have some knowledge.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stwrldprb
Are there DIY instructions on doing these repairs? So far no problems with mine but I'd like to be prepared. Door lock actuator seems like something I could probably do myself.
youyube the GS door actuator repair, same basic concept, I have seen the inside of the door on our cars and it’s close to the same DIY. It took me roughly an 3 hours to do 3 doors from start to finish, you refinery want to buy the tool to assemble the actuator motor to save some time and fustration
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stwrldprb
I've come from a history of owning BMW's and Mercedes. Mercedes is more reliable than BMW, BMW is terrible. I still own one as a "toy" but I intentionally bought a Lexus for reliability and low cost maintenance. So far, Lexus has not let me down and I'm at 80K on my 2016 is200t. 80k in a BMW would require window regulators, control arm bushings, a water pump (or maybe even coolant expansion tank since the entire cooling system is plastic), probably a few check engine lights, maybe a high pressure fuel pump, intake valve carbon cleaning. My is200t has needed literally 0 repairs, just scheduled maintenance and hopefully it will continue to take me to 200k miles with minimal repairs. I do find that the tires wear out in ~15-20k miles but I was warned by that with a sticker on the window.
You can't lump all BMWs together though. Just as you can't lump all Lexuses together.

Had an 89 325i with 247,000 original miles. not a single breakdown
my 06 325ci 5 speed, 78k since new, not a single hiccup.
02 330i 160k miles when sold. not a single failure.
98 m3 130k, same thing
97 m3 205k, a failed coil pack at 200k.

water pump you do on any car.

high pressure fuel pump on early BMW 335is, i'll give you that. fixed under extended warranty campaign. but that car also pushed 300hp to the wheels. nothing any lexus of the time or any IS can do now.

that's my point in a lot of this. you start pushing the same tech and power as the big boys do, you start to see problems creep in. we're all used to our grandfather's ES300 and Lexus LS400 of the old days with low power and primitive recycled tech so we're used to perfect reliability. but in this modern era now modern cars have to have more power and tech crammed in them and we're starting to see what happens when Lexus is forced to enter this arena. We're seeing a bit of it now. Interesting to observe for sure!
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:50 AM
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New tech issue is a given but consistent common failure is not. If you have a bmw you know the window regulators will go out, the vanos will leak along with the valve cover. If your unlucky to have the smg you better sell it, have an incredible warranty, or get ready to spend your kids college fund.

There is a reason why a 80k+ bmw or Benz when it was new is worth less then 20 k when it reaches 100k miles in 5 years. Been there with the E500, 70k + new and close to 80k OTD, 5 years and 100k miles I was lucky to get 16k.
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Originally Posted by TonyN


hahaha exactly, always German this and that crap with that guy, always talks down to people and assumes he is always right.



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hey E46CT. Wanna know where I get my info on German cars? If you want to talk about the two Lexus you own like its a big deals.

i have owned and modified
2002 BMW 330ci
2001 M3
2006 X5
2003 c320 6spd
2006 c230 6spd
2005 E500
2011 GLK 350
2007 CLK500
that’s just the German cars and that’s not mentioning the 38 cars I have owned.

Get over yourself, you think your being helpful but most of the time your biased and pompous. All cars have issue, some worst then others. The sky is not falling when your auto dimming mirror brakes, on the contrary the sky is falling when the BMW SMG fails on the highway at 80mpg or when the subframe of the E46 decides to give out because god forbid you take it out and launch it.
You see there are people with automotive experience on this board that don’t claim to know everything even though they might have some knowledge.

You're forgetting crankshaft rod bearings on the S54 engine. Its about a $2k "maintenance" item lol. I haven't been driving mine much anymore because I'm due to replace them.
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stwrldprb
You're forgetting crankshaft rod bearings on the S54 engine. Its about a $2k "maintenance" item lol. I haven't been driving mine much anymore because I'm due to replace them.
oh I remember lol
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