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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
I added F Sport gauge cluster to the list
Really?!?! So one cluster goes on one vehicle in some remote part of the world and all of a sudden it's list worthy...yeah, I call BS on that.
Maybe you should set some criteria...like a minimum of 5 units have to fail before it makes the list...or indicate the failure rate beside the item...in this case "1"
If the list is going to include one-offs, then it's going to be a lot longer giving a false impression of the quality.
And the fact that the car is 6 years old...if this was a German car it would have broken in year 2, then year 4, and then year 5...and then the owner would have gotten rid of the vehicle or stopped fixing it.
6 years...1 car...1 failure...and it's list worthy...get some perspective man!
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
I just don't think it will ever be an issue because nobody moved it after their first week of ownership. In the 5 years i had my car, i've maybe moved it 20-30 times and most of that was in the first month of ownership
I move mine when I feel like changing the needle color.

Or if I just feel like viewing the trip computer stuff more quickly. I definitely don't use it every day, maybe a couple of times a week though... Which is reasonable I'd say.
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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You wouldn't necessarily need to move the gauge for a failure point to pop up. I suspect it has a ribbon cable and if it does--that ribbon cable still vibrates and jiggles as the car goes along the road and there's still connection points at the cable itself, or the receiver on the PCB that has a number of solder joints. A car's dash gets hot under the sun so plenty of heat cycling/expansion and contraction of all those joints. all it takes is one to pop. NOT moving the cluster definitely helps though.

i'd love to tear into one and see if i can ID the problem.

here's a thread where someone else had a different problem:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...ing-wonky.html
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sasnuke
Really?!?! So one cluster goes on one vehicle in some remote part of the world and all of a sudden it's list worthy...yeah, I call BS on that.
Maybe you should set some criteria...like a minimum of 5 units have to fail before it makes the list...or indicate the failure rate beside the item...in this case "1"
If the list is going to include one-offs, then it's going to be a lot longer giving a false impression of the quality.
And the fact that the car is 6 years old...if this was a German car it would have broken in year 2, then year 4, and then year 5...and then the owner would have gotten rid of the vehicle or stopped fixing it.
6 years...1 car...1 failure...and it's list worthy...get some perspective man!
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who felt the comments here and on the original thread about the one failed F Sport gauge cluster in 5 years were a bit dramatic.

I really, truly enjoy E46CT’s contributions to this forum and I don’t want to see him go. However, even though he’s a Lexus owner, sometimes it also feels like he’s a BMW apologist who can’t bring BMW up so he tries to bring Lexus down.

I don’t mean to be too harsh about it or start an argument, that’s just how some of the things he writes come off to me.
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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
I just don't think it will ever be an issue because nobody moved it after their first week of ownership. In the 5 years i had my car, i've maybe moved it 20-30 times and most of that was in the first month of ownership
Agreed. I have only moved mine to show other people that it’s cool that you can move it. If it were to break, I wouldn’t notice it until I tried to show someone how cool it is that it moves only to find it now doesn’t.

Back when I leased my 2014 IS, the cluster did strike me as a cool, unnecessary feature that could be a costly failure item.

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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 04:39 AM
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This thread is getting personal and will be closed soon if the trend continues. This includes the OP; I don’t see any reason for a six month bump with an unprompted, inflammatory and seemingly biased broad brush comment like the below.

Originally Posted by E46CT
That's the thing w/ entering into the big boy german turbo arena. and entering into more tech/goodies in general. you have to pay to play. mo parts, mo tech, mo problems

Y'all want them fancy competition so your car can do good in motor trend mags and instagram posts showing off cool car features, well there is a cost. lol

There was something nice about simpler cars in simpler times. something very charming about driving an old car. i miss my 1987 E30 3 series manual with 247,000 trouble free miles when i sold it. fully mechanical and everything presents itself for you in the engine bay.
I also agree with the suggestion to apply some additional criteria to what you call a problem or trend, two posts is not enough to cry wolf and every single moving thing on a car will break if you just wait.
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