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LS460 looking back was a nice design. I can appreciate it now and I guess I didn’t then. I like the LS500 because it’s different, but it should have had a snorting wild V8r
Yes, if it had a proper engine that would be a great start...
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I always thought Lexus should have gone ultra high end at $200,000+ and offered a 12 cylinder
I don't really think that was necessary. But sure, why not, I would have been fine with it. But they sold 25k LS430s a year, they sold like hotcakes. Remember this was when the SUV craze was still somewhat new. People still wanted proper luxury sedans.
Yes, if it had a proper engine that would be a great start...
I don't really think that was necessary. But sure, why not, I would have been fine with it. s.
AND, from what I hear people saying on here, can't just replace one tire.
Another reason I go FWD or RWD.
With car-based AWD, you can replace one or more tires if the others are not worn down very much. The idea is to keep the outside edges of the four tires reasonably close to the same rolling-diameter, so that the center differential is not stressed more than it needs to be to prevent heat buildup. But, no, if one or the other tires are close to bald, then it may be time to get a new set.
That's one reason why I like the AWD system Buick and Chevy use on the Trailblazer and Encore GX. It has a button on the console that turns the AWD system on and off by driver-request. You can keep the AWD off most of the time, in FWD, and only use it when you really need it in bad weather, I just recently replaced a punctured tire on my GX without the need for a whole set.
In general, with AWD, that's true, but it can in some instances, depending on the vehicle's weight-distribution and center of gravity. That will determine how much weight is over each individual tire during the vehicle's braking action, and how much it adds to each wheel's effectiveness in braking. That's because AWD and its hardware adds weight in different areas of the vehicle compared to FWD and RWD.
LS is gone soon. I figured that 5 years ago. It's just that terrible, and sedans are dead. I don't want LS to die but it's not long for this world.
Its not terrible, its just a completely different kind of car. To me its like an A7 or 8 Series Grand Coupe or CLS.
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Lexus has never ever had a gasoline V8 turbo. Never mind a twelve cylinder
back when the LS was a serious competitior there were no turbo V8s, and the 12 cyl thing never bothered me because that was never a vehicle I would consider.
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I always thought Lexus should have gone ultra high end at $200,000+ and offered a 12 cylinder
They are clearly not at all confident they can compete at $130,000 let alone $200,000...
Originally Posted by LeX2K
Sure but it doesn't help you stop better.
Thats what people don't understand. They judge what drive system is superior by what gets them moving the easiest, and for safety thats the least important thing. Thats why winter tires are so important, and thats why a RWD car with winter tires is superior to an AWD car on allseason tires.
Originally Posted by mmarshall
In general, with AWD, that's true, but it can in some instances, depending on the vehicle's weight-distribution and center of gravity. That will determine how much weight is over each individual tire during the vehicle's braking action, and how much it adds to each wheel's effectiveness in braking. That's because AWD and its hardware adds weight in different areas of the vehicle compared to FWD and RWD.
This is why FWD is dangerous in the snow. That same weight over the front wheels which helps them grab better so you can accelerate more easily work against the car when you need to turn. When you load into a corner and all the weight is to the front, FWD cars break traction when turning very easily towards understeer, and once that traction is broken the car is completely out of control. In a RWD car you have less propensity for oversteer to begin with but once traction is lost at the front you and the ability to steer the car with the accelerator.
back when the LS was a serious competitior there were no turbo V8s, and the 12 cyl thing never bothered me because that was never a vehicle I would consider.
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When Lexus brought out their LS430, Mercedes was giving consumers the option of 3 different V8 engines and one V12 engine. When Lexus debuted the LS460.. Mercedes offered multiple engine options including a turbo V8. Lexus in the same situation today with their LS. Lexus can’t be a serious competitor if they lack at minimum a number of multiple power train options
They are clearly not at all confident they can compete at $130,000 let alone $200,000...
Nobody is going to pay $130,000 for a six cylinder engine. Back in 2007, Lexus should have offered the LS in 460, 600h hybrid and V12 trim. That would have put the Lexus brand over the top, and allow them to charge a higher price today. Even today Mercedes and BMW are making a mistake by not offering an exclusive V12 power train
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Dec 3, 2023 at 08:03 AM.
Thats what people don't understand. They judge what drive system is superior by what gets them moving the easiest, and for safety thats the least important thing. Thats why winter tires are so important, and thats why a RWD car with winter tires is superior to an AWD car on allseason tires.
100%. The difference in all aspects (acceleration, braking, and steering) of traction is astonishing the first time you experience it. The best way I can describe it for those that haven't, is driving in the wet with brand-new all-seasons, vs. a set warn past the wear bars, nearly (but not totally) bald. It's not exactly the same, but the difference is comparable.
Probably the best example I can give is my dad. He's the most conservative and cautious driver I've ever met, and has a total of 2 accidents over almost 60 years and somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million miles driven. The first one, when I was five, wasn't his fault (t-boned while making a protected left turn by someone who decided that red lights weren't their thing). But in the more recent one, he totaled his Outback Sport (basically an Impreza) in the snow. A few years later, when they replaced my mom's Avalon with a Hyundai Genesis (which is now the G80), his only nervous energy was around RWD in the winter. I convinced him to get a second set of wheels with Blizzaks. That first winter, he was absolutely floored by how securely it drove in the snow. He was converted instantly. Remember, this is a cautious driver who has recently totaled an AWD Subaru on all-seasons because of their lack of grip.
Originally Posted by SW17LS
This is why FWD is dangerous in the snow. That same weight over the front wheels which helps them grab better so you can accelerate more easily work against the car when you need to turn. When you load into a corner and all the weight is to the front, FWD cars break traction when turning very easily towards understeer, and once that traction is broken the car is completely out of control. In a RWD car you have less propensity for oversteer understeer to begin with but once traction is lost at the front you and the ability to steer the car with the accelerator.
Corrected one word, but otherwise agree completely.
Since it was almost impossible to see out of my side windows at night with the 5% tint that came on them, I went and got the front passenger and driver windows redone with 15% ceramic. It doesn't look much lighter from the outside, but it's a world of difference in terms of visibility from the inside. I'm pretty confident the old tint is/was not ceramic, so I may go back at a later point and get the rear side and back window redone in either 5 or 15% ceramic, and then eventually a clear ceramic on the windshield for heat rejection.
I may be wrong but I feel like tint helps the car cool faster?
It does, but as a secondary effect. It doesn’t actually make your AC more effective directly. But as you’re trying to cool the car, you’re introducing less additional heat into the cabin, so the AC has less total work to do.
30% is perfect for me in the Midwest, I’d definitely go 20% or 15% if I lived in Vegas like @BrettJacks
It does, but as a secondary effect. It doesn’t actually make your AC more effective directly. But as you’re trying to cool the car, you’re introducing less additional heat into the cabin, so the AC has less total work to do.
30% is perfect for me in the Midwest, I’d definitely go 20% or 15% if I lived in Vegas like @BrettJacks
Lol my LS has 5%. And yep I’ve gotten a ticket for it in bmfk Georgia. Nobody around town here cares.
It has a strong HVAC but yeah I do think the tint helps. Also LS430 has huge windows, tint looks really good on them in general.
Oh and also it’s harder to see at night now lol I’m getting old.
I won’t do 5% on the LC unless the one we find is black.
