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but again that’s one low volume model
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If people don't care about garbage wheezy engines, I don't think they're gonna notice it's not on a proper platform. Though I don't disagree.
The (predicted) most popular TX is about 8 seconds 0-60. Empty.
The (predicted) most popular TX is about 8 seconds 0-60. Empty.
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What I want is a Lexus competitor to the GLS and X7. GLE and X5. Would love some sedans, but that’s not going to happen and the LS is likely going to be discontinued.
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quality.
LS is likely going to be discontinued.
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It will just never be more than what it is, a Macpherson strut FWD transverse Lexus version of a Toyota. I would buy one as a minivan replacement for my wife to drive but I would never even consider one for myself, I just want more out of a car than that. That was fine for me when that was what I could afford, but I want more and so do a lot of luxury buyers.
An X7 or GLS? I would drive one of those as my car for sure. I have considered it.
An X7 or GLS? I would drive one of those as my car for sure. I have considered it.
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It will just never be more than what it is, a Macpherson strut FWD transverse Lexus version of a Toyota. I would buy one as a minivan replacement for my wife to drive but I would never even consider one for myself, I just want more out of a car than that. That was fine for me when that was what I could afford, but I want more and so do a lot of luxury buyers.
An X7 or GLS? I would drive one of those as my car for sure. I have considered it.
An X7 or GLS? I would drive one of those as my car for sure. I have considered it.
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If Lexus made a 3 row RWD crossover with beautiful styling and a nice ride with an air suspension and a nice quiet interior, I would buy that vehicle for $100,000 today.
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Lexus has always straddled that line though. Lexus never really compared with BMW or MB on the higher end…just on the lower end of the premium segment. You see that with their lack of top tier engines (V8 turbos and V12s)
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The fact that Lexus lost my business specifically is an example of it. I would have just continued buying Lexuses forever...but they don't make anything for me to buy anymore. SUVs are the new sedans, so if they had a duo or trio of proper RWD layout GA-L platform SUVs that competed with the germans I could excuse the sedans, but they don't. Genesis is what Lexus used to be, at least Genesis has proper RWD layout premium cars that a consumer can opt for if they want more value. I likely wouldn't go to Genesis because I can afford the Germans, but I would have never left Lexus and would absolutely go back to Lexus for the right product.
if you go on MBWorld or the BMW forums, they are FULL of people who feel the same way I do about Lexus and feel the brand left them behind.