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let’s not forget Lexus made this ES250 at one time. The US spec SC and GS were nice cars. I do agree with you though. Lexus had mostly better materials and fit and finish on the whole.
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I can give you tons of examples, a low optioned E Class or 5 Series vs a GS (when there was a GS), a low optioned GLC or X3 vs a Lexus NX, or any option GLB vs an NX. an ES vs a low optioned 3 Series or C Class, this has changed some because Lexus interiors are not what they once were and German interiors in low spec situations have improved, but I considered going German every time I replaced one of my Lexuses and I always found that to make the interior feel as nice as the Lexus, if it was even possible, I needed to add a lot of options.
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I can give you tons of examples, a low optioned E Class or 5 Series vs a GS (when there was a GS), a low optioned GLC or X3 vs a Lexus NX, or any option GLB vs an NX. an ES vs a low optioned 3 Series or C Class, this has changed some because Lexus interiors are not what they once were and German interiors in low spec situations have improved, but I considered going German every time I replaced one of my Lexuses and I always found that to make the interior feel as nice as the Lexus, if it was even possible, I needed to add a lot of options.
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No no, I mean in 2019 or '20 for example, the $60,000kish price of my LS430 the original owner in 2004 paid was about $80k in 2019-'20 dollars. With the inflation over the past few years, now that $60k in 2004 is worth $100k in 2023 when it was worth $80k just 3-4 years ago. See what I'm saying? I'm realllllly dorky with the inflation calculators, have apps on my phone lol.
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No no, I mean in 2019 or '20 for example, the $60,000kish price of my LS430 the original owner in 2004 paid was about $80k in 2019-'20 dollars. With the inflation over the past few years, now that $60k in 2004 is worth $100k in 2023 when it was worth $80k just 3-4 years ago. See what I'm saying?
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But it does make sense, a lower spec high end luxury car (like my 2004) today is roughly $100k, or close.
wow, i skip this thread for a couple of days and come back to 500 interior pics and debate. 
couple of comments...
great car... ugliest wheels ever though.
old boss had one of these... EVERYTHING broke on it.
became a good laugh between us as i chuckled in my bulletproof gs400
that's. what she said. 
couple of comments...
great car... ugliest wheels ever though.
became a good laugh between us as i chuckled in my bulletproof gs400
that's. what she said.
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The monoblock look........a signature visual distinction for V12 cars and early AMGs, you can ID them from across a parking lot by the exclusive rims alone.
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/06/2021-mercedes-maybach-s-class-launched-in-europe-with-v8-and-v12-engines/
https://jalopnik.com/help-im-in-love-with-rolls-royces-ridiculous-new-13-0-1849073520
https://www.motor1.com/news/550834/2...a8-horch-tour/
http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4244
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/06/2021-mercedes-maybach-s-class-launched-in-europe-with-v8-and-v12-engines/
https://jalopnik.com/help-im-in-love-with-rolls-royces-ridiculous-new-13-0-1849073520
https://www.motor1.com/news/550834/2...a8-horch-tour/
http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4244
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I always liked the final LS400 wheels a lot too, classy.
It's the Platinum Edition wheels that are awful, bleh. How anyone approved wheels this hideous that drastically downgraded the car's appearance in a partnership with Amex Platinum is beyond me....
It's the Platinum Edition wheels that are awful, bleh. How anyone approved wheels this hideous that drastically downgraded the car's appearance in a partnership with Amex Platinum is beyond me....
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LOL
Those wheels just look smaller to me, for some reason.
I have always liked machined finished diamond cut wheels, one reason why I liked those LS400 wheels we had on ours is they really showed off that finish well.
I have always liked machined finished diamond cut wheels, one reason why I liked those LS400 wheels we had on ours is they really showed off that finish well.
