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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so about that drive...

the big thing is the 4wheel steering, steering by wire (meaning it's software controlled and variable input/output ratio) and the small 'squircle' wheel. the steering is VERY quick (as has been mentioned by many - you don't even need a full rotation of the wheel to go to lock). i did a u-turn in the width of a tight street... good stuff.

however, it feels very unnatural, but that's not entirely due to the steering itself. this is a tall not particularly wide truck with massive tires and a fairly soft suspension with a surprising amount of body roll. since it's an air suspension this may be able to be improved via software, but it drives a bit like an old lincoln town car with quick steering.

i didn't drive it on a highway though, where i suspect it's more composed because the steering inputs would be smaller and drive by wire can make the inputs (wheel movement) result in less dramatic output (steering).

there's not much to say about the interior of the truck except it's incredibly plain. nothing to see here. but it is quite roomy
i still don't like the giant center screen only because tesla has no choice but to put tons of information/controls in that one place. can one "get used to" it? yes, but that doesn't mean it's great. and yes i know i'll hear from tesla owners how wonderful it is, but i've now driven several teslas and for me i would prefer the S and X dual screen setup.

my friend got the truck in feb, so he was pretty early. he said there were some panel fitment issues but tesla resolved them with no problems. he did also tell me that early on he encountered some overhead branches which brushed the windshield which the car thought meant it was raining, and the giant single wiper started, and fell off. lol

the A pillars are monumentally huge (thick and long, not good), and the rear view mirror is clearly only in the truck for regulatory compliance (it's completely useless). the screen has the rear view camera's view present which is more useful but of course takes up a chunk of the screen.

my friend likes the stainless steel because he just doesn't care about the exterior, keeping it 'nice', etc.

my friend had used the self-parking feature to park the truck in a parking lot, which he says works great and is helpful to park the big truck. i could see it had done a good job.

the full self-driving on the city streets drove the cal pretty close to the parked cars on the right (closer than i would) but that was to make sure it kept in the lane even if there was no traffic coming in the opposite direction. it had me tense with hands near the wheel just in case. if you barely touch the wheel and move it the fsd disengages and you must take over the driving.

the one pedal driving is excellent - tesla has nailed this.

more if i think of anything...
Honestly if I was in the market for an EV truck, it would be an R1T. Although I found the infotainment software to be, sluggish. And I'm being kind here Cyber Truck is definitely not for me.

As far as having a single screen Tesla has adopted, I have no comments because some people like it, and some don't, simple as that
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Honestly if I was in the market for an EV truck, it would be an R1T. Although I found the infotainment software to be, sluggish. And I'm being kind here Cyber Truck is definitely not for me.

As far as having a single screen Tesla has adopted, I have no comments because some people like it, and some don't, simple as that
I get that some people like it...but is it that they like it and DON'T want a screen behind the steering wheel? Or is it that they like the single screen but would welcome the addition of a second screen behind the steering wheel?
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Honestly if I was in the market for an EV truck, it would be an R1T. Although I found the infotainment software to be, sluggish. And I'm being kind here Cyber Truck is definitely not for me.

As far as having a single screen Tesla has adopted, I have no comments because some people like it, and some don't, simple as that
Gen 2 is supposed to have a more powerful processor so it should be smoother. I haven't used it so I can't speak to it personally. It is snappier than my old 19 3P which always hiccuped before activating the rear cameras, but the Y loaner we had a few weeks back was much smoother
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:44 AM
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I get that some people like it...but is it that they like it and DON'T want a screen behind the steering wheel? Or is it that they like the single screen but would welcome the addition of a second screen behind the steering wheel?
No, I think they (me ) just got used to not having a screen behind the steering wheel. If Tesla put a screen with an speedometer, etc behind the steering wheel, I would be absolutely fine with that as well, although now it would be a waste of resources, and I like that my view is not obstructed at all. When I transition to either the Polestar or our Ioniq, I'm fine that have a dedicated screen behind the steering wheel as well. I hope that makes sense
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:49 AM
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I am seeing more of these in SoCal and daaaaamn they are fugly.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
Gen 2 is supposed to have a more powerful processor so it should be smoother. I haven't used it so I can't speak to it personally. It is snappier than my old 19 3P which always hiccuped before activating the rear cameras, but the Y loaner we had a few weeks back was much smoother
I think it's more than just having a more powerful processor, but also having optimized software. I've driven a 2018 Model 3 with the Intel Atom, and the screen was extremely smooth. It lacked some features that are in my 2023 MY, but still a smooth experience. As an example, I cut the cable cord back in 2011, and tried so many different streaming boxes. One particular Android box I bought from Amazon was a Chinese built with extremely powerful quad processors, but the software (Android) was not optimized for the hardware, and the stream was always choppy, especially streaming 1080p and above. And it froze constantly. I ended up buying an NVIDIA Shield, which runs a version of Android optimized for their hardware, and never looked back
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 08:07 AM
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The 3 things he hates about his CT
  1. Headlights - especially when it snows since the the low headlights and ledge gather snow. Lightbar also causes issues because its position lights up snow as it's falling and gives that star wars light speed effect
  2. Towing - steel bumper tube -> cast aluminum frame does not give confidence for the weight that he's towing. Cast aluminum has a fatigue limit and will eventually fail unlike steel.
  3. Elon's weird tweets + CT as a billboard makes it seem like you're supporting Elon's weird tweets
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-6PjMHfjBg

The 3 things he hates about his CT
  1. Headlights - especially when it snows since the the low headlights and ledge gather snow. Lightbar also causes issues because its position lights up snow as it's falling and gives that star wars light speed effect
  2. Towing - steel bumper tube -> cast aluminum frame does not give confidence for the weight that he's towing. Cast aluminum has a fatigue limit and will eventually fail unlike steel.
  3. Elon's weird tweets + CT as a billboard makes it seem like you're supporting Elon's weird tweets
I don't get the last part
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I don't get the last part
Many in my area have added bumper stickers like this:



Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 10:10 AM
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Some people can separate Elon from Tesla and others can't.
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Many in my area have added bumper stickers like this:



Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
I've seen hundreds of CT's by this point, and I've never seen people put stickers on them. People who say they didn't know Elon was a bit "off" are just lying to themselves, I've always known since the Roadster, I mean who's crazy enough to think they are going to build EV's that go mainstream

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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I mean who's crazy enough to think they are going to build EV's that go mainstream
or grab a falling 20 story high rocket booster with 'chopsticks' or put tens of thousands of satellites into space to give people communication from anywhere, or to get cars to 'mostly' drive themselves or give quadriplegics or blind people new abilities...

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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
or grab a falling 20 story high rocket booster with 'chopsticks' or put tens of thousands of satellites into space to give people communication from anywhere, or to get cars to 'mostly' drive themselves or give quadriplegics or blind people new abilities...
Exactly. When I saw the first time SpaceX landing those three boosters, I thought I was dreaming. Only someone who is absolutely insanely crazy would ask for funding and think these things are remotely possible outside of a Sci-Fi movie

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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I've seen hundreds of CT's by this point, and I've never seen people put stickers on them.
I've not seen many CT's in my area, except at the showroom. Maybe only 2 to 3 in the wild. The majority of those bumper stickers I see are on MY's and M3's. I was just trying to explain the part of the video you said you didn't get. Not everyone is enamored by Musk.
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
I've not seen many CT's in my area, except at the showroom. Maybe only 2 to 3 in the wild. The majority of those bumper stickers I see are on MY's and M3's. I was just trying to explain the part of the video you said you didn't get. Not everyone is enamored by Musk.
OK, I see what you're saying. I didn't watch the video, I was just trying get an explanation of the last line without having to watch the video

I think personally people should separate personality from the product. And if they can't, don't buy the product. I thought Steve Jobs was an absolute ***, but Apple products are still amazing, and they wouldn't be what they are without his leadership. The only reason I never bought an iPhone or Mac was because they just didn't suit me or my needs, nothing to do with Jobs. Anyway with the numbers of Tesla's here in California (and new ones showing up on the roads everyday), I think most people don't really care

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