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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
That's the real issue IMO, you should test a car by driving it in four passes from the east coast, over the mountains, and back at least 800 miles each way and average it. That way trip range is actually known, then do local "highway" at speeds no one will drive at to get a high number.
take up your issue with edmunds.
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Edmunds finds that the EQS blows away its EPA-estimate in real world driving.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tes...-72-miles.html
if they are testing all cars with the same criteria, then yes, it is great test for 67mph average speed and nice warm weather, so good job MB.
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 10:10 AM
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422 miles going 67 mph is awesome. You would probably get 380 to 400 miles going 80 mph. It's the cost of that 422 miles which is mind dazzling. A trip to SoCal in my IS350 costs me over $70, my Civic Si with it's 38 mpg average costed me over $50, the same trip in the EQS would cost under $12 each way
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 10:40 AM
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No surprises there. My 2 days with an EQS 580 allowed me to sail through the EPA range with ease.
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
422 miles going 67 mph is awesome. You would probably get 380 to 400 miles going 80 mph. It's the cost of that 422 miles which is mind dazzling. A trip to SoCal in my IS350 costs me over $70, my Civic Si with it's 38 mpg average costed me over $50, the same trip in the EQS would cost under $12 each way
How much is your time worth? I am willing to bet at 80ish it has way less range, and the recharge would totally kill those savings since you waste an hour plus waiting on it. I'm not wasting that much time
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
How much is your time worth? I am willing to bet at 80ish it has way less range, and the recharge would totally kill those savings since you waste an hour plus waiting on it. I'm not wasting that much time
I would be charging it at home 99.9 percent of the time like we do with our 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV, never having to visit a gas station ever again, ready to drive each morning. So it's 1000 percent worth my time. And my money. Next question?
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I would be charging it at home 99.9 percent of the time like we do with our 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV, never having to visit a gas station ever again, ready to drive each morning. So it's 1000 percent worth my time. And my money. Next question?
they did say a full charge with level 2 took 20 hours.
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
they did say a full charge with level 2 took 20 hours.
They did say that, but in real world use, at least in my case I would never use even 50 percent of the battery at the extreme. At home currently we use 110v (Level 1) as even if it takes 10 hours to charge my wife's Ioniq, it doesn't matter because when we wake up in the morning it's fully charged. They never stated how long it would take on a super charger, which would be Level 3. If I bought a car like this I would probably install a Level 3 charger at home, although that is way overkill as we generally never use more than 20 percent of the battery on the Ionic at any given time

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That is impressive real-world range but Edmunds’ Level 2 charger must be weak.

Our NEMA 14-50 240V Level 2 home charger should recharge an empty 108-kWh EQS in 14-15 hours at 32 Amps.

A Tesla Wall Connector charges at 48 Amps and could recharge a 108-kWh battery in under 10 hours.
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If it’s the RWD version, and no frunk, then what’s taking up space beneath the hood?
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Originally Posted by FatherTo1
If it’s the RWD version, and no frunk, then what’s taking up space beneath the hood?
control systems, including climate, electronics, liquids (still need brake fluid, washer fluid, coolant, etc).
And the front is shorter and sloped more than most cars so a frunk there would be pointless.

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
At home currently we use 110v (Level 1) as even if it takes 10 hours to charge my wife's Ioniq, it doesn't matter because when we wake up in the morning it's fully charged.
Obviously you (or your wife) don't drive the ioniq much, but glad that works out for you.

If I bought a car like this I would probably install a Level 3 charger at home, although that is way overkill as we generally never use more than 20 percent of the battery on the Ionic at any given time
home level 3 charging? I've not heard of that. Watch the street lights go out.
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Merged several EQS threads.
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Solid review...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...nz-eqs-review/

Every now and then, a car transcends the whole notion of motoring simply by its existence. That’s the Mercedes-Benz EQS-Class; the first flagship electric luxury sedan from the world’s oldest car maker. And it’s the first built on the new, first-generation electric-native platform. That’s a lot of firsts. Practically speaking, the electric automotive revolution is the exciting business story of our times. Philosophically speaking, it’s Darwin and Adam Smith unbound—capitalist warfare at its most intense. The EQS is all that and more. ...

(Much more at the link)
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
control systems, including climate, electronics, liquids (still need brake fluid, washer fluid, coolant, etc).
And the front is shorter and sloped more than most cars so a frunk there would be pointless.
found this pic that shows this.


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