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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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I disagree. At least Lincoln is doing something in that they are giving you a wonderful, powerful experience. What has Lexus done lately in their SUV engines? Oh right, they haven’t had a new engine since 2007
Agreed. Lincoln wants to be taken seriously as a luxury carmaker and this is a step in the right direction. Lexus needs to step it up with their powertrains before they become the next Acura.
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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I disagree. At least Lincoln is doing something in that they are giving you a wonderful, powerful experience. What has Lexus done lately in their SUV engines? Oh right, they haven’t had a new engine since 2007
To be totally accurate, there is the 3.5tt V6 in the LS which has major horsepower and could be tuned to do even more, especially in the torque department. Whether Toyota will use this in lower applications is the question. Cautious and incremental, that's Toyota for you. To create excitement, a manufacturer has to be willing to put such an engine in something other than a big boat flagship.
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 05:06 PM
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To be totally accurate, there is the 3.5tt V6 in the LS which has major horsepower and could be tuned to do even more, especially in the torque department. Whether Toyota will use this in lower applications is the question. Cautious and incremental, that's Toyota for you. To create excitement, a manufacturer has to be willing to put such an engine in something other than a big boat flagship.
And what SUV is the new LS engine being used in?

I am just pointing out it’s nice that Ford is doing something like this which is good for the consumer, most people on here would never give this Lincoln consider just on brand name alone.

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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyG
To be totally accurate, there is the 3.5tt V6 in the LS which has major horsepower and could be tuned to do even more, especially in the torque department. Whether Toyota will use this in lower applications is the question. Cautious and incremental, that's Toyota for you. To create excitement, a manufacturer has to be willing to put such an engine in something other than a big boat flagship.
Lincoln tried putting the 3.0TT V6 in the non-flagship MKZ, and the take rate was actually pretty low...even considering the MKZ's low sales numbers to start with. Most buyers are going with the 2.0T and FWD (both non-hybrid engines have a choice of FWD or AWD). However, IMO, that was one of the marketing errors in this car.....the non-turbo V6 should have been the base power plant instead of the turbo four. It is more refined and less peaky than the 2.0T.
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
And what SUV is the new LS engine being used in?

I am just pointing out it’s nice that Ford is doing something like this which is good for the consumer, most people on here would never give this Lincoln consider just on brand name alone.
As I said in the post: Toyota, cautious and incremental to a fault. The daring big risk stuff is for the Germans and now apparently for Lincoln. Is that soccer mom going to use all 400 hp of the Aviator's power, likely not. Toyota is still a sedan company as much as it is a crossover company.

That's why they won't go big with a high horsepower crossover. It's not their thing. Sure the Lexus LF Limitless got some chatter but how long is that going to take before it even sees the hoi poloi reviewers testing it?

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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 06:38 PM
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Because more power = more better.

Just because y'all are boring doesn't mean everybody is. It's nice to be able to get up and scoot on whim.
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
Because more power = more better.

Just because y'all are boring doesn't mean everybody is. It's nice to be able to get up and scoot on whim.
And scoot right into cart return they shall. ...that's why it's called Target.
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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I think it's a great execution, but 400 HP is overkill for the base model. There's enough morons on the road that can't handle 270 HP in a Camry.
a camry isn't 5000lbs though
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 09:37 PM
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Its a nice suv but I prefer the Lincolns with the winged grills.
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 09:58 PM
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Its a nice suv but I prefer the Lincolns with the winged grills.

You actually like the older spread-wing grilles more then the newer Jaguar-inspired ones? Each to his or her own (and I respect your opinion) as styling is subjective....but most people seem to think the opposite.

In some of my older Lincoln reviews, I used to comment on the grilles looking like a grinning teen-ager showing off a new set of braces LOL.

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Old Dec 12, 2018 | 01:17 AM
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Not that one, this one:


I never really liked Lincolns but the winged grill was more exclusive as it was pretty unique. The one you linked reminds me of a mid evil symphony house rather than a kid with braces.

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Old Dec 12, 2018 | 10:26 AM
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An Aviator with a 400hp base engine is awesome. They're likely doing this because the Explorer ST will be more than the current 365hp Explorer Sport
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Old Dec 12, 2018 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
An Aviator with a 400hp base engine is awesome. They're likely doing this because the Explorer ST will be more than the current 365hp Explorer Sport
And if you want more performance, there is the hybrid with another 50 horsepower and a massive amount of torque. I hope that Lincoln channels some of this goodness into a new sedan using the same RWD platform. Could the Town Car live again?
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 05:31 AM
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why would they make a town car with lagging sedan sales and they are not going to make a next gen continental
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 02:15 PM
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Why do you need 400hp? Its a luxury car...you don't "need" lots of things about it.
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