coolsaber

So lexus/toyota make safety kit standard
Acura/Honda same thing

Everyone else makes basic kit standard, but adaptive cruise control is an option....Lease it at best

Hoovey689

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Most things like Pre-Collision, adaptive cruise, Lane Keep assist are options wrapped in expensive packages on the Germans. Jaguar XE doesn't even have a backup camera as standard when I drove one as a loaner from the airport a month ago. ToMoCo, Honda, FoMoCo do it right making these things standard

FrankReynoldsCPA

Let's not forget that cost of ownership will be cheaper as well.

My manager bought a new GLC or GLE a year or two ago. He's paying a ton for maintenance. He thinks he isn't because he prepaid for the maintenance...but still, he spent over $3-4k for his maintenance plan. That's a lot of money for oil changes and filters for 2-3 years.

coolsaber

I guess i find it weird. Just a couple years ago, Lexus/Toyo Honda/Acura were trailing the big names in bringing safety suites to market, now they kind of are leading it.

While I agree the Germans and their expensive packages make this a steal, Lincoln would made this even a better home run with adopting the aforementioned options as standard. Raising the bar even higher and maybe slotting a lower powered engine thats base. #Futureplans

Toys4RJill

mmarshall

The Government itself made backup cameras standard...as of May of last year. If the XE you drove didn't have one, it either was not built to American-specs, or was built before May.

4TehNguyen

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backup cameras are federally mandated for 2018 MY vehicles

Hoovey689

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Avis must of given me a 2017 then. Because there was no camera.

FrankReynoldsCPA

Is it a model year thing or a date of manufacture thing? Sometimes the inclusion of mandatory stuff happens mid-model year.

The big example that comes to mind was the 2007 diesel emissions regs. You could buy a 2007 Dodge or GM with the pre-emissions engine, but those were all manufactured prior to January 1, 2007. The rest of the model year had the new emissions compliant engines, but they were still 2007's.

mmarshall

I understand your point, though. It does seem a little odd for an upscale product like a Jaguar not to include something like a back-up camera until Uncle-Sam literally shoves it down their throat with legislation. Other vehicles (even some lower-market ones) have been offering back-up cameras for several years.

coolsaber

I was just surprised that Lexus went from the back to the front real quick.

Hoovey689

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Up until mandated, I suspect cost-cutting for their cheapest model the XE was the culprit. Make it an option make it a profit. On a luxury name like 'Jaguar' I don't agree with that. I wonder if the XF suffered the same fate until 2018.

Toys4RJill

Hoovey689

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coolsaber

GX is in a league of its own, and whether thats a good thing or bad thing time will tell. The aviator is targeting all the 3 row crossovers from luxury Marques

Value is what Lincoln is going to cover most with their pricing structure as it covers everything from an XC90, MDX, RX-L (i threw that one in for kicks caz really its just holding an L), all new Caddy, QX60 all the way to GLS/q7?X7 territory.


The issue on the higher end is, well if you are paying that much, bump into Navigator, Future Escalade, LX, X7 with options or GLS with options.