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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 08:35 AM
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lol no That picture was in response to Yardie's comment above about smart watch integration on the new avalon. Lexus just posted that image on facebook saying its a new feature to lexus inform, and Im sure the toyota entune version has the same functionality.

I'm curious at the smart watch integration. Maybe as a key possibly? My 007 dreams are slowly coming to fruition
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
lol no That picture was in response to Yardie's comment above about smart watch integration on the new avalon. Lexus just posted that image on facebook saying its a new feature to lexus inform, and Im sure the toyota entune version has the same functionality.
That's a cool feature, although Viper beat them to it. Had that feature on my watch for a few years now.

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New Avalon is gonna weigh in at 3700 in heaviest hybrid trim. Real Yamaha wood.
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
New Avalon is gonna weigh in at 3700 in heaviest hybrid trim. Real Yamaha wood.





In general, I have no problem with car weight......IMO, the more weight, the better (within reason). All else equal, more weight on top of the suspension (as opposed to unsprung weight, which is below) means a smoother ride, and, on front-engined vehicles, more stability, better tracking, and, on FWD cars, better traction over the drive wheels. In some cases it even means better crash-survival. True, less weight (all else equal) will generally improve handling, gas mileage, acceleration, and braking....but those are factors that I'm usually not terribly concerned with.

So, if the new Avalon has enough weight (which is generally expected in this class of sedan, to keep it from riding like an econobox)....then more power to it. When the last-generation Avalon debuted, though, in 2013, even though it had the weight, they screwed it up with too-stiff suspension and tires, and were forced by complaining customers to make changes for 2016.

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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
New Avalon is gonna weigh in at 3700 in heaviest hybrid trim. Real Yamaha wood.
The hybrid drive (traction) battery is quite heavy. There is no getting around that at the moment. But despite the added mass, hybrids still run more efficiently than their gasoline-engined equivalents.
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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3700 for hybrid large sedan isn't bad at all.
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 04:55 PM
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3700 for hybrid large sedan isn't bad at all.
2018 was already 3682 lbs with 17" wheels... with more features, larger wheels, more sophisticated suspension (AVS for instance), few lbs more is not a lot.
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 08:07 PM
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I figured it'd be near 3900, 4000lbs. The weight of the competition such as the Maxima is around 3600 lbs. The discontinued Hyundai Azera was 3800lbs about the same as the Chevy Impala.
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The reviews are out today. Looks like the new Avalon has outdone its previous generation model which was the class leader. Reviews are good. It’s nailing the sport experience among the reviewers.
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The reviews are out today. Looks like the new Avalon has outdone its previous generation model which was the class leader. Reviews are good. It’s nailing the sport experience among the reviewers.


What people forget (unfortunately, even some reviewers) is that "sport experience", in this class, does not necessarily make it a class leader. People usually buy this type of sedan for comfort, not aggressive driving. In fact, as numerous sources indicated, that was the problem with the last major introduction 2013...it was too sport-oriented.

I won't comment on the new model, outside of the circus-clown grille, since I haven't had a chance sit in it or drive it. But I plan to.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
What people forget (unfortunately, even some reviewers) is that "sport experience", in this class, does not necessarily make it a class leader. People usually buy this type of sedan for comfort, not aggressive driving. In fact, as numerous sources indicated, that was the problem with the last major introduction 2013...it was too sport-oriented.

I won't comment on the new model, outside of the circus-clown grille, since I haven't had a chance sit in it or drive it. But I plan to.
It nailed the sport. It also nailed the ride comfort of the non touring. Interior is good. Quieter than before which was also the class leader. Looks are subjective, I really hope you can appreciate that as your thoughts on the front end are pretty clear.

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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill


It nailed the sport. It also nailed the ride comfort of the non touring. Interior is good. Quieter than before which was also the class leader. Looks are subjective, I really hope you can appreciate that as your swipes at the front end are already well noted.


Well, I'm not the only one that is not impressed with the new grille. But, I'm keeping an open mind on the rest of the car. Unlike some people, it's not my policy to do "reviews" without actually doing a review.

And, though not often, it is possible for a vehicle to improve radically from one generation to the next. The 2014 Impala proved that....hook, line, and sinker. It's still stuck, though, in the minds of some people, with a rental car reputation.....those who have not even bothered to test drive it.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, I'm not the only one that is not impressed with the new grille. But, I'm keeping an open mind on the rest of the car. Unlike some people, it's not my policy to do "reviews" without actually doing a review.

And, though not often, it is possible for a vehicle to improve radically from one generation to the next. The 2014 Impala proved that....hook, line, and sinker. It's still stuck, though, in the minds of some people, with a rental car reputation.....those who have not even bothered to test drive it.
The 2013-2018 was the class leader. This new model appears to be as well.
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 06:35 AM
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AoA on it...

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