2019 Toyota Avalon
04-24-18, 12:10 PM
#541
TFL Car guys are way more car guys than 90% of those 5/E/A6 buyers. Unless you are thinking badge, but then again Lexus SUVs with worse handling vs germans compared to where new ES should be, manage to get a much larger share of the pie, so I dont see why ES wont be able to increase its share too... not that it is badly selling now, it is not, it is top selling vehicle too.
04-24-18, 12:26 PM
#544
Lexus Fanatic
TFL Car guys are way more car guys than 90% of those 5/E/A6 buyers. Unless you are thinking badge, but then again Lexus SUVs with worse handling vs germans compared to where new ES should be, manage to get a much larger share of the pie, so I dont see why ES wont be able to increase its share too... not that it is badly selling now, it is not, it is top selling vehicle too.
Same is true of the RX, its much cheaper than similarly sized german crossovers, and its not necessarily being cross shopped with vehicles like the X5.
04-24-18, 01:18 PM
#545
Lexus Fanatic
The ES sells great, but its much cheaper than those midsized sport sedans, and doesn't sell to the same demographic buyer. You can't assume just because the ES sells well now that they can just move the same vehicle up in price and it will all of a sudden take sales away from cars it never competed with in the first place.
Same is true of the RX, its much cheaper than similarly sized german crossovers, and its not necessarily being cross shopped with vehicles like the X5.
Same is true of the RX, its much cheaper than similarly sized german crossovers, and its not necessarily being cross shopped with vehicles like the X5.
The Avalon also helps with ES sales as it is a naturally car for people to cross shop if you are already in the Toyota brand. The new Avalon is getting excellent reviews.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 04-24-18 at 01:25 PM.
04-24-18, 01:39 PM
#546
Lexus Champion
If I'm able to get over the hurdle of the aesthetics of the front end I might consider the Avalon Touring after the launch and things settle down. Right now the front end is a bit too much for me. Sales probably won't set the world on fire with CUV's and SUV's capturing most of the sales, but it's great to see Toyota sticking with the large sedan for those who still want one.
04-24-18, 01:45 PM
#547
Lexus Fanatic
If I'm able to get over the hurdle of the aesthetics of the front end I might consider the Avalon Touring after the launch and things settle down. Right now the front end is a bit too much for me. Sales probably won't set the world on fire with CUV's and SUV's capturing most of the sales, but it's great to see Toyota sticking with the large sedan for those who still want one.
04-24-18, 06:32 PM
#548
Lexus Fanatic
Have been watching the videos on YouTube...dare I say I think I like it...
04-24-18, 07:06 PM
#549
Lexus Champion
It does look nice imo. It's actually a decent step up from the new Camry which my family now has.
04-24-18, 07:10 PM
#550
Lexus Fanatic
Call me a maverick haha
04-24-18, 07:10 PM
#551
I am waiting to see the rear legroom specs. Haven't found it yet. I am a rear legroom snob. I am disappointed that ES has same legroom has my L LS models. Now Accord has 40.3 inches of rear legroom, which is more than my ordered LS500 with 38.9 inches
Curious on Avalon rear legroom.
04-24-18, 07:12 PM
#552
Lexus Fanatic
Regardless of what the dimensions say, the ES does not have as much rear legroom as the LS460L...
04-24-18, 07:25 PM
#554
Lexus Champion
As mentioned, the front end is a turn off for me right now but I agree with poster who said it could benefit from a front license plate to break up the blackness a bit. Otherwise it looks nice a nice effort from Toyota.
04-24-18, 07:49 PM
#555
Lexus Champion
