Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

2019 Toyota Avalon

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 11:46 AM
  #1  
sorptd's Avatar
sorptd
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Default 2019 Toyota Avalon

Looks like the debut of next gen Avalon isn't too far away.

Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/149375/2...on-spy-photos/



Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 01:16 PM
  #2  
situman's Avatar
situman
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,918
Likes: 305
From: NY
Default

Judging by the front tire, this things been through some hard miles. Or they could be cheap and reuse old tires.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 02:05 PM
  #3  
chromedome's Avatar
chromedome
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,397
Likes: 51
From: CN
Default

Just a stretched Camry? Hopefully the new Avalon and new ES have good dynamics and are as fun to drive as the latest Camry.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 02:09 PM
  #4  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,844
Likes: 4,018
Default

if it goes much more upscale, it will encroach on lexus es?
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 02:14 PM
  #5  
GsGS's Avatar
GsGS
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

IMO, the Avalon has always been a stretched Camry. At least our '97 was. Same drive train, just a different body.

Don't worry about it encroaching on the ES. They'll come out with a new one so the $3k-$5k difference will be retained.....
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 03:06 PM
  #6  
pman6's Avatar
pman6
Racer
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,945
Likes: 24
From: CALIFORNIA
Default

isn't this a low volume seller?

rear stance looks good.
interesting they're benchmarking a KIA cadenza. Never thought korean cars would be the standard for comparison.



Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 03:35 PM
  #7  
Hoovey689's Avatar
Hoovey689
2UR-GSE Owner
15 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 42,476
Likes: 321
From: California
Default

2019 ES probably has a 300hp V6
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 04:27 PM
  #8  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,475
Likes: 252
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by pman6
isn't this a low volume seller?
In the U.S., of course (and perhaps some other countries), it gets competition from its own brother Lexus ES....which handily outsells it.


interesting they're benchmarking a KIA cadenza. Never thought korean cars would be the standard for comparison.
This isn't the 1990s. Kia has made enormous advances in the last 15-20 years, and, today, is turning out some the best products available for the money, especially in exterior/interior hardware, fit/finish, and the solid way they are screwed together. In fact, IMO, cheap lightweight interior plastic hardware was one of the major problems of the last Avalon redesign, for 2014 (along with a too-stiff-ride for most of its typical buyers)...but Toyota addressed at least some of that with the 2016 mid-generation refreshening.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 04:29 PM
  #9  
RNM GS3's Avatar
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,216
Likes: 250
From: New York
Default

Quad tips on Avalon and 4cyl Camry - what is Toyota doing?
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 04:48 PM
  #10  
davyjordi's Avatar
davyjordi
Pole Position
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,944
Likes: 182
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
This isn't the 1990s. Kia has made enormous advances in the last 15-20 years, and, today, is turning out some the best products available for the money, especially in exterior/interior hardware, fit/finish, and the solid way they are screwed together. In fact, IMO, cheap lightweight interior plastic hardware was one of the major problems of the last Avalon redesign, for 2014 (along with a too-stiff-ride for most of its typical buyers)...but Toyota addressed at least some of that with the 2016 mid-generation refreshening.
15-20 years is really stretching it; more like 10 years ago when peter schreyer moved over to the hyundai/kia group was when a lot of the improvements we now see in their products, from exterior and interior styling to powertrain enhancements came to fruition.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 07:13 PM
  #11  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,475
Likes: 252
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by davyjordi
15-20 years is really stretching it; more like 10 years ago when peter schreyer moved over to the hyundai/kia group was when a lot of the improvements we now see in their products, from exterior and interior styling to powertrain enhancements came to fruition.
Yes, I'd say about 10 years or so ago was when Hyundai and Kia products finally got their act together. But, at least from my experience in reviews, the improvements actually started in the late 90s and early 2000s....between 15 and 20 years ago. That was basically what I was referring to. Today, I'm actually more impressed with them, in a number of ways, than I am with Toyota or Honda....the traditional quality-leaders.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 07:53 PM
  #12  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,844
Likes: 4,018
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Quad tips on Avalon and 4cyl Camry - what is Toyota doing?
trying to impress posers? like nissan has done with the maxima and altima.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 08:00 PM
  #13  
Sulu's Avatar
Sulu
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,309
Likes: 31
From: Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
2019 ES probably has a 300hp V6
Well, considering the 2018 Camry has the 301hp V6... I am expecting to see spy shots of the new ES soon.

I am hoping that this next-generation Avalon has an understated, handsome styling, like the current-generation one has (despite what seems to be some funny sheet metal creases under the camouflage).
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 08:05 PM
  #14  
Sulu's Avatar
Sulu
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,309
Likes: 31
From: Canada
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
In the U.S., of course (and perhaps some other countries), it gets competition from its own brother Lexus ES....which handily outsells it.
Although the Avalon continues to be sold in Canada, it sells in such low numbers that the Avalon Hybrid is not available here.

I am hoping that the next-generation Avalon Hybrid will be available in Canada; that will give me more choices for the replacement of my current ES Hybrid.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2017 | 08:36 PM
  #15  
ttsport15's Avatar
ttsport15
Lead Lap
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 420
Likes: 31
From: new york
Unhappy

Originally Posted by Sulu
Well, considering the 2018 Camry has the 301hp V6... I am expecting to see spy shots of the new ES soon.

I am hoping that this next-generation Avalon has an understated, handsome styling, like the current-generation one has (despite what seems to be some funny sheet metal creases under the camouflage).
jeez Camry making more power than my is300 not only are the civics making me look bad now the cab drivers will be leaving me in the dust...I'm going to have to put a 100 shot on this car soon
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:40 PM.