2019 Toyota Avalon
#436
Lexus Fanatic
Something tells me this new Avalon stirs up the emotion in you better than your current Buick LaCrosse.
#437
Lexus Fanatic
As far as emotion, I could be reasonably satisfied with a 2018 Avalon (and more so with an ES350 or 2017 or later Lincoln MKZ)....but I simply feel more at home in a Lacrosse than anything else (currently) on the market. I have no desire for anything else right now....and likely will not for quite some time
#438
Lexus Fanatic
Go figure that the drag coefficient of this new Avalon is lower than the LS500. Hard to believe I must say.
"Form follows function in Avalon. The tangential vents at the front, its rear spoiler, and the substantial underbody panel coverage, from front nose to tail, minimize aerodynamic inefficiencies and give Avalon a 0.27 coefficient of drag – besting the outgoing model’s 0.28 Cd."
"Form follows function in Avalon. The tangential vents at the front, its rear spoiler, and the substantial underbody panel coverage, from front nose to tail, minimize aerodynamic inefficiencies and give Avalon a 0.27 coefficient of drag – besting the outgoing model’s 0.28 Cd."
#439
Lexus Champion
...But the doors (for 2018) now shut with a solid feel and a decent thunk (better than on my Lacrosse, I might add), and (almost) the whole car seems to have a more solid feel to its assembly. I suspect that, without a major re-design to the existing model, the engineers, for 2017 or 2018, probably just added more insulation to the doors to absorb that (formerly) tinny feel and sound.
#440
Lexus Fanatic
Really? Hard to believe Toyota made changes. Is there something that can show this? Is it perhaps when Toyota moves the Lexus ES lone to Kentucky?
#441
Lexus Fanatic
And, BTW, insulation doesn't have to be bulky or heavy. Buick, for example, compared to the 2016, managed to take 300 pounds out of the all-new 2017 Lacrosse.......all the while making the car longer, wider, and even quieter running.
#442
Lexus Fanatic
Without a major re-design, though, one (usually) can't realistically do the kind of structural changes you're referring to. Remember....I was talking about the mid-cycle update for 2016 and perhaps other small changes for 2018....it would be far simpler just to add door-insulation. The major redesign will bow next year.....2019.
And, BTW, insulation doesn't have to be bulky or heavy. Buick, for example, compared to the 2016, managed to take 300 pounds out of the all-new 2017 Lacrosse.......all the while making the car longer, wider, and even quieter running.
And, BTW, insulation doesn't have to be bulky or heavy. Buick, for example, compared to the 2016, managed to take 300 pounds out of the all-new 2017 Lacrosse.......all the while making the car longer, wider, and even quieter running.
#443
Lexus Fanatic
(Oh....and I've only explained that to you about six times).
But hey, isn't this thread about the 2019 Avalon?
#444
Lexus Fanatic
There are some interesting attributes that the new Avalon is going to have. A lower drag coefficient than the new Lexus LS, .3 lower than the LaCrosse and .1 lower than the current Avalon. This new model should be one quiet car. Add in flat panels underneth the car which is LS like. Also interesting to note, Toyota is going to mirrors that are on the doors instead of the where the door metal and window meet, this is a design cue from Lexus. A sound generator will now be offered. And most interesting to me will be some sort of glide control for slowing down and coming to a stop.
#445
#446
Lexus Fanatic
I believe the touring model only. Not the limited or regular model. So the Touring model will make an effort to be a departure form what the Avalon normally is.
#447
Lexus Champion
As long 8ng as it can be turned off or default to the off position it might be OK I guess. I can see buyers returning to the service dept. with complaints of excessive noise.
#448
Lexus Champion
I wouldn't worry too much about the intake sound generator. In addition to the IS F Sport and the GS, they use it on both the RX F Sport and the LS F Sport and I haven't heard of widespread complaints there. I think as long as they use it only on the Touring model it should be fine.
#449
Lexus Fanatic
I wouldn't worry too much about the intake sound generator. In addition to the IS F Sport and the GS, they use it on both the RX F Sport and the LS F Sport and I haven't heard of widespread complaints there. I think as long as they use it only on the Touring model it should be fine.
#450
I have a 2013 GS350 with this feature. I think it’s only active when the sport **** is turned right. This feature just pipes more intake induction noise into the cabin it’s different from the RC-F and GS-F where one can turn on and off additional noise added from the cars speakers. Also I the 2019 Avalon launches in late Spring 2018.