Originally Posted by yowps3

The best part is the rear. Look at how tired the Hyundai design is, as per usual.





Where as the Avalon looks fresh

Originally Posted by mmarshall

I totally agree. It is definitely getting a little long in the tooth. Even in my car reviews, where I describe a car stem-to-stern in detail and give a long list of plusses/minuses, I generally don't pan a vehicle for something that looks like a copy of another one. It is extremely difficult, nowadays, with the sheer number of vehicles now or formerly in production, to design something that is TRULY new and doesn't look like SOMEBODY else, somewhere down the line. IMO, people that harp on this are just beating a dead horse.

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns

What utter bull****. It's one thing to say "I don't see any similarity between the Genesis interior and the 5er interior" (which you'd have to be blind to say anyway), but to place all three of those interiors on the same level is just a flat out lie.

Compare the 3 center stacks:



Now honestly tell me, how on earth is the GS in the same league of similarity as the Genesis and 5 series? Ask any 6 year old and they will quickly tell you one of those does not belong. Furthermore, the Genesis and 5 series both use a similar rotary **** system for their infotainment. The GS uses a unique remote touch system, which looks nothing like the other two.

The only similarity with the GS and the German interiors is the horizontal theme. But that's like saying since two songs are about love, they must be exactly the same. In fact the GS and Lexus interiors in general are nothing like their German counterparts. The Germans like to use little brightwork highlights around everything (like around the ***** and strips under the buttons in the Genesis and 5er interiors). Lexus has never been into that stuff. Hyundai meanwhile is attempting to fool people into thinking its interior is as good as any German interior, by mimicking all those little details. Not an ounce of originality or thought or care. Simply take what others have done and massage it for their own use. Then again all the Germans do is copy eachother, Now there is a South Korean competitor getting in on the action.

It's like that nerdy kid in highschool trying to associate himself with the cool kids by sitting close to them at lunch time, eating what they eat and talking like they do. One day someone asks: "do you guys know this kid"? They'll be like "ahh no..." "really? he's been sitting next to you for the last year, you've never noticed him?" "uh sorry no we haven't".





They would have to be wearing some really blinding Hyundai shades to say anything different.

Originally Posted by yowps3

The Avalon has the best interior for the price range of any car on sale today IMO. Avalon vs Azera.

You can easily see that the Avalon interior is higher quality than the Azera's & ES350's


Winner is Avalon, easily

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

yowps3, good analysis.

Originally Posted by hlee12

agreed. Avalon's interior looks good on pictures, but in person it's somewhat disappointing. on the other hand, azera's interior looks awful in the picture. it's even worse in person. i just can stand its ugly shape

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

yowps3, good analysis. of course you can also get a cadenza for avalon money. the cadenza interior/exterior is kinda dull, but at least it's driving the right wheels.

Originally Posted by hlee12

of course it's similar. it definitely has a bmw 'vibe'. color scheme is similar. shape is similar. last gen had more infiniti vibe with curved dash. but saying this is chinese knock off is flat out hilarious. it's just hatin'.

i'm certain there are many of these boxy shape nav unit with buttons and ***** on the side everywhere.

are they blatantly copying each other? lol

i could go on and on about similarities in virtually all cars. there is no such thing as 100% original. nobody is saying this is the most original car in the world. hell no it isn't. but a direct copy of this and that is getting so old.

Originally Posted by yowps3

The Cadenza is FWD!

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns

The exterior is a chinese knockoff - and I'm not talking coincidental similarity or even design inspiration. Simply knockoff. The designers themselves are probably sitting back laughing at anyone trying to argue against this point. They know too.

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns

The exterior is a chinese knockoff - and I'm not talking coincidental similarity or even design inspiration. Simply knockoff. The designers themselves are probably sitting back laughing at anyone trying to argue against this point. They know too.

Originally Posted by GoFastTSI

Exactly, that and the constant "hey is nice new Sonata" got old in a hurry when I owned my Azera. However the interior was well built and of quality materials. The new Avalon as pointed out is nice from a looks perspective but is cheap/flimsy and rattles...a LOT.

Originally Posted by yowps3

Everything Korean is flimsy in general.