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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 12:59 AM
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BTW this guy in the Benz forum really is dying on the hill that a GLE is a better tow vehicle than a 1500.

Lol and I don't care about anything over there (it sucks like I said) and they let you be a big smart ***, so it's pretty much turning into fun.

Dude is saying a Yukon is an acceptable tow vehicle but a Sierra is terrible, even though they have the same frame...engine, etc. etc.

So why can you tow way more with a pickup than an SUV then? He keeps talking about chassis flex as if a 1500 will wiggle to pieces towing a boat.
Old Jul 21, 2025 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
My counter argument is that is no country anywhere allows you to be wherever you want in bar road with no regard for yielding position or keeping out of the dedicated lanes.

There are countries with unlimited zones that by the numbers are less dangerous, speed isn't a problem when used where appropriate. Being in the wrong place is always wrong and WILL always cause a crash.
But you aren’t in one of those zone in those countries. That’s like saying you can drive 75 MPH on a neighborhood street because you can do that on some roads. That makes no sense.

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Look, have I done what you did, yes. Have I driven way way over the speed limit in my cars, yes (I even hit the speed limiter in my X7 at 130 mph). So I do stupid things just like you and Striker but for me to defend my actions and act like I didn’t do anything wrong is kind of absurd. I’m pretty self centered so I’ll do me and you do you but I won’t sit here and try to justify that what I did was smart. I think that is the rub.
Agree. We have all done dumb stuff but it’s the unwillingness to admit it’s dumb…I have done all that stuff too l, it’s all dumb.

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I didn’t do anything wrong!!!! Nor stupid. And again who died??? Read my last post again. You weren’t there. You don’t know the intersection, the layout, what roads they are, how busy they were, what the other lanes looked like, etc. I used my own discretion.

I had a green light and stepped on the gas. I didn’t back off to some DB thinking he was gonna be slick running a light to cut me off and I relish knowing that huge razor Denali grill in his face forced him to back off. Sue me. I said that even if I started off slow he would have still hit me.
That was aggressive driving and vigilantism and it was wrong. I just saw this play out last night in Ocean City. This guy in a pizza delivery car pissed off this old guy in a pickup truck and the car is weaving in and out and at every light the guy in the pickup would lean out of his car and yell obscenities at the guy in the car. Guy in the car was wrong, but the guy in the pickup wasn’t making it right by also being more unsafe. And here we are and everybody else with our families in our cars at the beach and we’re put at risk because of it.

Nobody died but you could have had an accident. You could have been hurt. Your car could have been ruined. He could have jumped out of his car and shot you. That happens. I have learned that it’s just not worth it. At the end of the day he’s him and you’re you, so you win.

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BTW this guy in the Benz forum really is dying on the hill that a GLE is a better tow vehicle than a 1500.

Lol and I don't care about anything over there (it sucks like I said) and they let you be a big smart ***, so it's pretty much turning into fun.

Dude is saying a Yukon is an acceptable tow vehicle but a Sierra is terrible, even though they have the same frame...engine, etc. etc.

So why can you tow way more with a pickup than an SUV then? He keeps talking about chassis flex as if a 1500 will wiggle to pieces towing a boat.
That guy will absolutely die on that hill. As some other member there said to me he is the “absolute arbiter of right and wrong”. He and I (and everybody else) went around and around about dealers. He insists the only competent person who can work on a Mercedes is a dealer tech and that everybody who has bad service at a MB dealer it’s their fault (lots of people). He also insists that the MB GLE and GLS is the best car ever made and that anybody who has problems and posts about them is a troll (which lets me honest, not the most reliable cars ever made by anybody’s definition) lol

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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 05:48 AM
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Lol you're not gonna tell me that what I did was unsafe yet justify going impossibly illegal speeds above 150MPH on public roads, it ain't gonna fly.

And I didn't get in his way, he was in MY way. I had the green light for the millionth time. He ran a red light, well, just about as badly as a light can be run.

150 isn't a "non-event' even if you have a sled like that.

Try a big SUV with tons of "GTF outta my way" presence that makes people get out of the way when they screw up. It's really a non-event.
What happens in this scenario when the other vehicle is also a big SUV? Just give each other the finger and move on?
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So the condo we are staying in at the Beach has an assigned space that isn’t one I would have chosen…let’s put it that way. The little kid in the car next to us flung his door open and got the Pacifica pretty good in the drivers door. At least they left a note. Nice people.

Unfortunately I don’t think it will go 100% with PDR, there are two dings and the paint is damaged pretty bad. I’m sure it will come out enough that with touch up paint it will be fine. I hate to be without it for a week+ while the door is painted. About of that white is paint transfer but there is definitely missing paint.

Unfortunately that reinforced why my wife insists we need a minivan lol. I told the woman that was the greatest damage it did!


Old Jul 21, 2025 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
What happens in this scenario when the other vehicle is also a big SUV? Just give each other the finger and move on?
Can we move on? You weren’t there. None of you were.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So the condo we are staying in at the Beach has an assigned space that isn’t one I would have chosen…let’s put it that way. The little kid in the car next to us flung his door open and got the Pacifica pretty good in the drivers door. At least they left a note. Nice people.

Unfortunately I don’t think it will go 100% with PDR, there are two dings and the paint is damaged pretty bad. I’m sure it will come out enough that with touch up paint it will be fine. I hate to be without it for a week+ while the door is painted. About of that white is paint transfer but there is definitely missing paint.

Unfortunately that reinforced why my wife insists we need a minivan lol. I told the woman that was the greatest damage it did!
Wow, what kind of car/door hit you to do two dings like that? Good on them for leaving a note, that never happens, ever. I would just get PDR and then order Dr. Colorchip or whatever it is, I heard the kit they provide is really good for chips in paint.
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Wow, what kind of car/door hit you to do two dings like that? Good on them for leaving a note, that never happens, ever. I would just get PDR and then order Dr. Colorchip or whatever it is, I heard the kit they provide is really good for chips in paint.
It’s a Subaru Forester. It was the rear passenger door with that sharp corner and she said her son was excited to get to the beach and just flung the door open as hard as he could. My kids do that too so it was hard to be mad. I texted them yesterday and then today they were there getting into it when I walked by and I introduced myself. He was 7 and he said he was sorry!

Yeah that’s what I’m going to do, with the dark color it will be fine. If it were the Mercedes I would be upset but this thing takes its lumps lol. Mercedes never would have been parked in that spot to begin with. When we used to drive both cars down here I parked it across the lot in the unreserved spots in an end space.




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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 10:12 AM
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I've got rock sliders on the Rivian and when I can't get an isolated spot, I park on high so 90% of cars will hit the sliders instead of the door
Old Jul 21, 2025 | 10:29 AM
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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
BTW this guy in the Benz forum really is dying on the hill that a GLE is a better tow vehicle than a 1500.

Lol and I don't care about anything over there (it sucks like I said) and they let you be a big smart ***, so it's pretty much turning into fun.

Dude is saying a Yukon is an acceptable tow vehicle but a Sierra is terrible, even though they have the same frame...engine, etc. etc.

So why can you tow way more with a pickup than an SUV then? He keeps talking about chassis flex as if a 1500 will wiggle to pieces towing a boat.
Towing same load with LX 570 and my Tundra, at higher speeds the trailer would get a little squirrelly in the LX570 whereas in the Tundra it would stay planted at same and even higher speeds. But I see guys who tow their track cars with SUVs everytime I go to the track.

Better than a 1/2 truck? That’s a stretch. Trucks typically have longer wheelbase than SUVs that helps with towing.
Old Jul 21, 2025 | 12:38 PM
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Towing same load with LX 570 and my Tundra, at higher speeds the trailer would get a little squirrelly in the LX570 whereas in the Tundra it would stay planted at same and even higher speeds. But I see guys who tow their track cars with SUVs everytime I go to the track.

Better than a 1/2 truck? That’s a stretch. Trucks typically have longer wheelbase than SUVs that helps with towing.
Yeah LX will tow until the cows come home but I'm not surprised the Tundra is better.

And like I've said, people with LXs don't tow the huge loads like you do.. They're like me towing a ski boat boat, which it handles beautifully...at least 2-3k pounds less than the max. The engine doesn't struggle, at alllll.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
But you aren’t in one of those zone in those countries. That’s like saying you can drive 75 MPH on a neighborhood street because you can do that on some roads. That makes no sense.



Agree. We have all done dumb stuff but it’s the unwillingness to admit it’s dumb…I have done all that stuff too l, it’s all dumb.



That was aggressive driving and vigilantism and it was wrong. I just saw this play out last night in Ocean City. This guy in a pizza delivery car pissed off this old guy in a pickup truck and the car is weaving in and out and at every light the guy in the pickup would lean out of his car and yell obscenities at the guy in the car. Guy in the car was wrong, but the guy in the pickup wasn’t making it right by also being more unsafe. And here we are and everybody else with our families in our cars at the beach and we’re put at risk because of it.

Nobody died but you could have had an accident. You could have been hurt. Your car could have been ruined. He could have jumped out of his car and shot you. That happens. I have learned that it’s just not worth it. At the end of the day he’s him and you’re you, so you win.



That guy will absolutely die on that hill. As some other member there said to me he is the “absolute arbiter of right and wrong”. He and I (and everybody else) went around and around about dealers. He insists the only competent person who can work on a Mercedes is a dealer tech and that everybody who has bad service at a MB dealer it’s their fault (lots of people). He also insists that the MB GLE and GLS is the best car ever made and that anybody who has problems and posts about them is a troll (which lets me honest, not the most reliable cars ever made by anybody’s definition) lol
You know exactly what I mean, don't use a false equivalency like that lol!

Is that GLE guy insane? Or just a professional troll? I guess I should stop working in Mercedes cars then, apparently an 100% repair success rate with zero comebacks means I'm an idiot.

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Originally Posted by AJT123
Lol you're not gonna tell me that what I did was unsafe yet justify going impossibly illegal speeds above 150MPH on public roads, it ain't gonna fly.

And I didn't get in his way, he was in MY way. I had the green light for the millionth time. He ran a red light, well, just about as badly as a light can be run.

150 isn't a "non-event' even if you have a sled like that.

Try a big SUV with tons of "GTF outta my way" presence that makes people get out of the way when they screw up. It's really a non-event.
Yes it totally is. It's well under 20 seconds from a dead stop and literally is a one hand on wheel event with no drama at all.

The car makes a major difference, you may not like that fact but it is a fact that higher ability cars effectively reduce the effort of speed. Think of your LS at 90 vs a same year Camry, it's just no comparison and they quite literally engineered the car to do that and much higher speeds
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Everybody who's ever crashed at high speed was confident that they were built different and could safely handle it.
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Everybody who's ever crashed at high speed was confident that they were built different and could safely handle it.
And it's 99% of the time an infinity or charger on old tires



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