My point is, not everything Tesla does is smart

 

You will never buy a Tesla no matter what. Ever. You've given many reasons over the years as to why which is fine but don't expect anyone to think you're going to run out and buy one if a certain app is suddenly supported.

 

So here's the thing. Tesla Q4 sales missed projections. Wasn't a massive miss, but it was enough to send the stock down an appreciable number. Now if you were looking to bridge that gap, I think we can all agree that there's a non-zero number of people who won't buy a Tesla because it lacks what for them is a key feature. In other words, people who are the polar opposite of your position.

That non-zero number, as it happens, is about 25% of US EV buyers per a McKinsey study reported in this June 2024 9to5Mac article (30% of EV buyers globally), with about 38% of US ICE buyers taking the same position - no CarPlay, no deal. Presumably similar for AA. These are big numbers.

https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/20/carpl...urvey-results/

The article goes on to reinforce that. Apple users like and want CarPlay. A 9to5Mac poll found that 80% of their readers stated that for them it's a must have feature. iPhone has a larger US market share than Android, and iPhone users tend to earn more than Android users. So Tesla is absolutely closing itself off to a lot of potential buyers by not supporting CarPlay/AA.

https://explodingtopics.com/blog/iphone-android-users

 

Tell me one company that does everything "smart" as you put it. There is always going to be something someone doesn't like about a car or car company. Some love BMW, some love Toyota/Lexus, and some hate both. For me, Tesla offers everything I want in a car, which includes infrastructure. I looked at lot of cars over the last three years, and they all have aspects I like, as well as hate. Tesla is doing something right, selling nearly half a million cars a quarter.

If the worst thing about a Tesla is that it doesn't have AA or ACP, I can live with that

 

That isn't necessarily true. I have considered buying a Tesla multiple times. I'm also not the only person that has expressed a desire for these features here or elsewhere either.

FWIW my wife loves Teslas, but CarPlay is a deal breaker for her also.

No company does everything "smart", difference is other companies don't have a legion of fans who can't tolerate people pointing out things they do that aren't smart (certainly other companies do also have those sorts of fans).

Why so defensive? Nobody is attacking Tesla by saying they should have a certain feature.

 

I'm not disputing any of this, there are people who simply won't buy a Tesla because of those reasons, and maybe others like not liking Elon. I'm only stating my opinion, which is I believe for my personal use, AA or ACP are 100 percent not needed as part of Tesla's UI. That's all I'm saying. If Tesla wants more sales, they have to do what they think is right for the company. That's all I'm saying

 

Mercedes obviously, that's why @SW17LS bought one. No way he would buy a car that isn't perfect, like a Tesla. And of note it's extremely important to point in your Tesla thread how flawed your car is.

 

Nothing in Tesla's UI is "needed". Its not about what consumers "need" its what we want.

 

I don't know why you automatically default to thinking people are being defensive. I only stated my belief. If you attacked Tesla, said it was a garbage company, I wouldn't really care because I don't work, or represent Tesla in any way except as an owner. In the end, a Tesla is a material object, if it burned today I would just buy another one

 

No way LOL, I can make you a long list of things Mercedes does that are stupid. Would you like me to do that? We can start with the ridiculous door handles that trapped my 78 year old mother's hand on Christmas eve...

Again don't be so defensive, we're just talking about features we think a car should have.

 

You and Lex aren't being defensive in this thread? Okay...

 

No I would not and frankly I don't care go look at how many times I've commented about your car. If you want to make a thread all about it no one is going to stop you but it has zero to do this thread or subject.

Trigger warning this is just my opinion, but on balance Tesla's UI is so far ahead of anyone else it's tragic for other auto makers. An Apple app would add very little value if at all, maybe to some Apple maniacs it is critically important although my wife buys every new iPhone (since day 1 I think) and doesn't care at all.

 

No, actually you are being defensive. I simply stated that Tesla's don't need AA or ACP for my needs, but you can't accept that for some reason. I even mentioned that I respected your view on ACP earlier in the thread, but you didn't seem to like that

 

No that isn't what you said, you said they don't need AA or ACP period because you don't want those features, and I pointed out that Tesla as a company who sells a product should consider adding features that are important to buyers even though those features may not be important to you. Like swajames pointed out there are a considerable number of buyers out there for whom not having this feature is a disqualifier.

 

You brought it up, not me.

Like swajames pointed out not having this feature is a disqualifier for a lot of buyers. What the issue with having it available for those who want it?