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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 12:57 PM
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Still no light...

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
🫣 I try not to think about it. Modifying is by choice. I race. I’m modifying to make improvements. You’re making repairs. There’s a difference. At end of day, money spent on both ends unless your repairs are made under warranty.

I don’t like repairing cars but I don’t mind modifying them. Sounds the same but it’s different, to me at least.
Lets think about the amount of repairs I have had done though. On the S560 it was the one valve cover repair in 3 years of having the car, and it was covered by warranty. Other than that there were some really minor things that were done during routine maintenance, I had a squeaky seat and had a bad door seal when it was brand new and I needed a new drivers side door switch. LS460 I had the brake actuator repair when it was very young and that was it, other LS it was the head unit. We're averaging one unscheduled repair here per 3 year stint of having each car, thats not a big deal. The benefit is I get to drive an incredible car every day. The alternative would be to drive much cheaper and simpler cars and there is no guarantee they would not have a repair once in 50,000 miles of ownership either.

A machine may require repair...the more complex and sophisticated the machine the more repair it may need, but also the more enjoyable it is to use. To "avoid Mercedes" cars when you may have an errant repair here or there is silly IMO. The whole concept of German cars being "scary unreliable" is really overstated. My experience driving the most complex Mercedes is really very similar to my experience driving Lexus cars.

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It's extremely overstated really......and they are so much more logically laid out and easy to work on.
Old Dec 16, 2024 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Here is a 59k mile Japanese built UR engine with the leak....I'm dealing with it shortly and it's a major job.
Have you worked on any 2UR's?


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Inn the case of my $9k repair, thats also the crazy dealer cost. I asked my independent mechanic what he would have charged and he told me $5k. And again, supposedly that would have been avoided had I done 5K OCIs, its caused by clogged oil separators.
Old Dec 16, 2024 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639

That's cheating!
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The cost for diy oil change is now $40.
That's for a jug of Mobil 1 synthetic and a Fram oil filter, at Walmart.
Old Dec 16, 2024 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LH1
Have you worked on any 2UR's?
Yes why? They are the same as the 1/3UR in almost every way really....the 1UR is the most complex to work on by far due to the DI harness and shorter overall package height and pricy VVTI-e system.
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Just curious since I have one now. I don't remember RC F, GS F etc having any unexpected engine issues. Thought you maybe saw something concerning along the way.

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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
A tune will 100% void a warranty I’m sure. Once I buy a vehicle, I typically don’t take them back to the dealership. I do all of my service at home. A modified ECU can be trace even if you retune it back to stock.
Technically under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, the manufacturer has to prove the modification caused the failure. In practice however, automakers have been pretty successful at denying warranty claims when you've tuned the ECU.

My 540i was already out of warranty when I bought it, so I didn't have to weigh that consideration. 2 years ago I would have laughed at someone for buying an out of warranty BMW.
Old Dec 16, 2024 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Still no light...



Lets think about the amount of repairs I have had done though. On the S560 it was the one valve cover repair in 3 years of having the car, and it was covered by warranty. Other than that there were some really minor things that were done during routine maintenance, I had a squeaky seat and had a bad door seal when it was brand new and I needed a new drivers side door switch. LS460 I had the brake actuator repair when it was very young and that was it, other LS it was the head unit. We're averaging one unscheduled repair here per 3 year stint of having each car, thats not a big deal. The benefit is I get to drive an incredible car every day. The alternative would be to drive much cheaper and simpler cars and there is no guarantee they would not have a repair once in 50,000 miles of ownership either.

A machine may require repair...the more complex and sophisticated the machine the more repair it may need, but also the more enjoyable it is to use. To "avoid Mercedes" cars when you may have an errant repair here or there is silly IMO. The whole concept of German cars being "scary unreliable" is really overstated. My experience driving the most complex Mercedes is really very similar to my experience driving Lexus cars.
Prius j/k

During my LS460 ownership the more I read about the repair cost in the LS forum I thought man some costly repairs may rear its head later down the road. I absolutely loved the car but just didn’t fit what I was looking for. I had it for a mere 9k miles. Then I went from a LS460 to a Civic🫣😆 I wouldn’t mind owning another LS460. Great car!!

It’s incredible feeling to me chasing down a cammed/exhaust+ 427 C6 Z06 on slicks on the track in a Civic on low boost. I had to compress the quality for it to fit.
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Actually, our Prius left my wife stranded on the side of the road, inverter failure and separately required the whole headunit to be replaced because of a fused CD changer!
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Technically under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, the manufacturer has to prove the modification caused the failure. In practice however, automakers have been pretty successful at denying warranty claims when you've tuned the ECU.

My 540i was already out of warranty when I bought it, so I didn't have to weigh that consideration. 2 years ago I would have laughed at someone for buying an out of warranty BMW.
That’s where I am on why I’m hesitant on voiding the warranty. Although I’ve watched countless videos of Supras with 500-900hp to the wheel driven daily with little to no issue. Not that I’m looking to hit a certain hp number but 500hp looks fun in a Supra.

Also have you coded your 540? I was looking to order the

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Actually, our Prius left my wife stranded on the side of the road, inverter failure and separately required the whole headunit to be replaced because of a fused CD changer!
Man you have some tough luck maintenance wise with your vehicles!!

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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Man you have some tough luck maintenance wise with your vehicles!!
Honestly, not really IMO. Stuff can happen to any vehicle though is my point.
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I've had really good luck on that front.

No warranty claims on any of my GSs or my IS. Our RX had 30k miles without a single issue. Both Highlanders have been great, without any warranty claims, though the current one has a suspension squeak I need to deal with (out of warranty). My first Tacoma (a 2011) had the HVAC fan replaced under warranty, and no claims on my second Tacoma (a 2020) though I didn't have it for long. My Tundra had one claim (a leaking rear differential) but it was quickly fixed and no issues since.

I get super annoyed with even the smallest of issues, so these cars have served me well.
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Originally Posted by LH1
Just curious since I have one now. I don't remember RC F, GS F etc having any unexpected engine issues. Thought you maybe saw something concerning along the way.
I wouldn't worry, the issues the UR engine has are mostly limited to oil consumption from owners babying the cars, oil leaks from the valve covers at high miles, and at very high miles (age really) coolant eats the headgaskets if not maintained.

Freak issues like cam tower leaks are luck of the draw, the issue I take with Toyota/Lexus is how expensive parts are, how hard it is to find the OEMs, and how the packaging is just not smart to work on.



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