Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

General Car Conversation 2024 - part 2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 03:31 AM
  #2341  
jer's Avatar
jer
Pole Position
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,020
Likes: 149
From: fl
Default

Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
To be fair, my premium increased by almost 50% this year. I have zero tickets or accidents on my record and have never filed a claim.

I think the insurance companies are gouging us right now. I'm paying $3k/yr to insure 2 vehicles.
I'm having an agent reshop insurance for us as our renewal is 4k/yr for 2 vehicles. That is with just 1 accident over 3 yrs ago, other person's fault (rear ended at a red light).
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 04:41 AM
  #2342  
BayeauxLex's Avatar
BayeauxLex
Lead Lap
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 3,958
Likes: 409
Default

Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Never seen a GX550 on the road. But I see a lot of TX models
Same. My cousin actually has a TX

Originally Posted by LeX2K
Came across this meticulously kept and detailed RAV4.

So before getting my Rav I actually set out if buy one of these V6 4WD gems. I researched and searched all over for one that was still in somewhat decent condition. I was dead set on getting a V6 4WD Rav until having a talk with couple family members in which one said “just get a brand new one”. That put an end to my search. 😆
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 05:22 AM
  #2343  
Allen K's Avatar
Allen K
-0----0-
CL Folding 25,000
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 10,222
Likes: 1,189
From: NJ
Default

I'm starting to see more GX and new Land Cruisers on the road. TX demand where I am seems to have mellowed.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 07:10 AM
  #2344  
Carfan94's Avatar
Carfan94
Instructor
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 882
Likes: 11
From: TN
Default

Originally Posted by link13
The silver lining is at least the person is driving in the left lane when the right lane is wide open lol. Embarrassingly, when I drive in Germany and I see someone cruising in the left lane, I know it’s a US American. Fortunately, it hasn’t happened often.
Oh yes! I was driving on the expressway two days ago. The left and middle lanes moving slowly and congested and people driving super fast In the right lane!

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

So before getting my Rav I actually set out if buy one of these V6 4WD gems. I researched and searched all over for one that was still in somewhat decent condition. I was dead set on getting a V6 4WD Rav until having a talk with couple family members in which one said “just get a brand new one”. That put an end to my search. 😆
You could have gotten an RX 350 AWD. Same drivetrain. Not much larger than a RAV4.
My brother had a FWD V6 RAV4 a few years ago. Great engine but Too much power for the narrow front tires.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 07:11 AM
  #2345  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,075
Likes: 511
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by link13
The silver lining is at least the person is driving in the left lane when the right lane is wide open lol. Embarrassingly, when I drive in Germany and I see someone cruising in the left lane, I know it’s a US American. Fortunately, it hasn’t happened often.
Oh yeah. One of the first things my father taught me driving was to never cruise in the left lane, traffic or not. It’s basically common sense, yet there are a lot of dumb people out there.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 09:12 AM
  #2346  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by AJT123
Yes it is, because back then the competition wasn't nearly as good and the 200/LX570 series was a great truck. LX was a solid choice a decade ago, for example. Now it's just outclassed in every way. No power running boards for $134k??? This recalled V6 engine and wow, now a fun hybrid ..... yawn.
We get it, you hate hybrids lol

I never considered the LX as a vehicle, to me a RR has always been a much more compelling vehicle...its always been a niche vehicle and that really hasn't changed. I don't think the new LX is that different than the old LX compared to the competition..only change is the lack of the V8 but most Range Rovers are not V8s either.

And don't ignore the fact that the new LX does sell better than the old LX.

Everything costs 15-20% more, or have you not noticed over these last few years? I paid 3k more for an HVAC, 25% more than the downstairs one I replaced prior to 2021.

I'm going to see if I can find out why it increased, I wonder if they'll tell me.

I wouldn't be shocked if they did raise my rates, but I think it's just risen with the COL.
Not sure why its so hard to believe that the insurance company would take claims into account when pricing the new premium. It only makes sense that they do that.

Originally Posted by AJT123
Here’s my insurance breakdown. I don’t think they raised my rates for claims, but who knows.
Note that there is no "claim free" or "good driver" discount listed, so those discounts aren't going into your renewal pricing which is costing you money in the premium.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 09:48 AM
  #2347  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Allen K
I'm starting to see more GX and new Land Cruisers on the road. TX demand where I am seems to have mellowed.
I see both. I don’t see a ton of either, but I have seen several GX550s, I think they look great.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 09:51 AM
  #2348  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,075
Likes: 511
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
We get it, you hate hybrids lol

I never considered the LX as a vehicle, to me a RR has always been a much more compelling vehicle...its always been a niche vehicle and that really hasn't changed. I don't think the new LX is that different than the old LX compared to the competition..only change is the lack of the V8 but most Range Rovers are not V8s either.

And don't ignore the fact that the new LX does sell better than the old LX.
An LX is a niche vehicle like I've said for years which you have finally seen the light of day with, my point.

My other point is that LX570 was much, MUCH more competitive in its day. Like I said, 10 years ago an LX was a solid choice. The competition caught up and surpassed it big time. And the new one is just so disappointing in so many way. Great seats, I'll give it that.

This new one sells more, but not that many more. It always be a low selling truck compared to Escalades etc.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Not sure why its so hard to believe that the insurance company would take claims into account when pricing the new premium. It only makes sense that they do that.
Maybe, maybe not. EVERYONES insurance has risen. I just got off the phone with my mother, hers has skyrocketed. @FrankReynoldsCPA said he pays 50% more with zero violations and accidents.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Note that there is no "claim free" or "good driver" discount listed, so those discounts aren't going into your renewal pricing which is costing you money in the premium.
Going up $50 a month isn't a bit deal. It's just all this shytttt adds up and I'm sick of it.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 09:59 AM
  #2349  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by AJT123
An LX is a niche vehicle like I've said for years which you have finally seen the light of day with, my point.
Not sure where I have “just now” said it’s a niche vehicle. I have always said it’s a niche vehicle.

What I have said is it’s a mistake for Lexus not to have a vehicle with wider appeal and I believe that.

other point is that LX570 was much, MUCH more competitive in its day. Like I said, 10 years ago an LX was a solid choice. The competition caught up and surpassed it big time. And the new one is just so disappointing in so many way. Great seats, I'll give it that.
I don’t agree. I have always found it way behind.

Maybe, maybe not. EVERYONES insurance has risen. I just got off the phone with my mother, hers has skyrocketed. @FrankReynoldsCPA said he pays 50% more with zero violations and accidents.

Going up $50 a month isn't a bit deal. It's just all this shytttt adds up and I'm sick of it.
None of it “is a big deal” because we can afford it. But, if your insurance is $3,000 a year, $50 a month is $600 a year which is a 20% increase. That’s not insignificant.

Pricing of insurance coverage is complex, a lot goes into it but of course the cost you create for the company in claims and the likelihood that you will file claims goes into that pricing.

For example, your coverage is about the same cost as my coverage despite having much cheaper older cars (much less overall liability for them) more cars but dramatically cheaper cars and living in a much lower cost area. Were the same age etc.

Last edited by SW17LS; Oct 12, 2024 at 10:03 AM.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 11:48 AM
  #2350  
Nicul's Avatar
Nicul
1st Gear
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default Shock absorbers in the nx 300h

Do all the shock absorbers of the versions of nx300h are the same ? Or only the f sport version has the active variable suspension ?
Is the E - four version different from f sport from this point of view ? Or the e-four is just like any other nx ? Thank you !
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 01:14 PM
  #2351  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,075
Likes: 511
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Not sure where I have “just now” said it’s a niche vehicle. I have always said it’s a niche vehicle.
You blamed poor sales on it not being a great truck and denied it was a niche vehicle, just a poor seller. Go back and find the posts, you would not admit it. Lexus doesn't care that it doesn't sell as many of these as Escalades. They know exactly what they're doing.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
What I have said is it’s a mistake for Lexus not to have a vehicle with wider appeal and I believe that.
]Well they've added the TX and new GX, but I'll tell ya I'm not seeing too many of these TXs around and I figured they'd be at every corner.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don’t agree. I have always found it way behind.
Duly noted. It took third in a 2015 MT comparison FWIW. They loved its capability and just the luxury of having it all. It was a lot more competitive 10 years ago, like I've said a couple times.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
None of it “is a big deal” because we can afford it. But, if your insurance is $3,000 a year, $50 a month is $600 a year which is a 20% increase. That’s not insignificant.
It is when I consider insurance has paid out 20k in 3 years in claims.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
For example, your coverage is about the same cost as my coverage despite having much cheaper older cars (much less overall liability for them) more cars but dramatically cheaper cars and living in a much lower cost area. Were the same age etc.
I'm insuring 4 cars.... the Yukon is still worth at least 70 something.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 01:28 PM
  #2352  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by AJT123
You blamed poor sales on it not being a great truck and denied it was a niche vehicle, just a poor seller. Go back and find the posts, you would not admit it. Lexus doesn't care that it doesn't sell as many of these as Escalades. They know exactly what they're doing.
I did no such thing lol


Well they've added the TX and new GX, but I'll tell ya I'm not seeing too many of these TXs around and I figured they'd be at every corner.
It’s not that compelling a vehicle. Lots of vehicles I would buy before one.

It is when I consider insurance has paid out 20k in 3 years in claims.
Which is why they have to charge you more than somebody similar who they haven’t paid out any claims for, it only makes sense. Of course the cost of your insurance is less than the cost of your claims, that’s because the risk is spread across all their customers. You are absolutely paying more than you would be paying if you had no claims though.

I'm insuring 4 cars.... the Yukon is still worth at least 70 something.
The total amount of risk though is much smaller because the total value of the cars is considerably less. They also probably have your primary as the car that’s the cheapest to save you in premium, if they are halfway decent insurance agents. Adding cars without primary drivers doesn’t add a whole lot to the policy. What year is the Yukon?
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 01:47 PM
  #2353  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,075
Likes: 511
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
I did no such thing lol
We argued about the LX570 until blue in the face. But we can leave it.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
It’s not that compelling a vehicle. Lots of vehicles I would buy before one.
Me too, but now Lexus finally does have a "competitive crossover". I don't see very many. Now it's not a gauge of the entire nation, but I figured they'd be absolutely everywhere around here.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Which is why they have to charge you more than somebody similar who they haven’t paid out any claims for, it only makes sense. Of course the cost of your insurance is less than the cost of your claims, that’s because the risk is spread across all their customers. You are absolutely paying more than you would be paying if you had no claims though.
I never said it was impossible that my claims have risen the rates, but I will note that you told me about 30 times they were gonna drop me.. No such thing. You get a warning before, it happened to me when I was 16.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
The total amount of risk though is much smaller because the total value of the cars is considerably less. They also probably have your primary as the car that’s the cheapest to save you in premium, if they are halfway decent insurance agents. Adding cars without primary drivers doesn’t add a whole lot to the policy. What year is the Yukon?
Right.... I get how insurance works. Yukon is a '22.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 01:51 PM
  #2354  
BayeauxLex's Avatar
BayeauxLex
Lead Lap
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 3,958
Likes: 409
Default

Originally Posted by Carfan94


You could have gotten an RX 350 AWD. Same drivetrain. Not much larger than a RAV4.
My brother had a FWD V6 RAV4 a few years ago. Great engine but Too much power for the narrow front tires.
We used to have a ‘19 RX450H F Sport. Great vehicle. Sometimes wish we kept it😔

Believe it or not, my Rav has more interior space than the 22+ RXs. In addition I wanted NA engine.
Old Oct 12, 2024 | 01:58 PM
  #2355  
Striker223's Avatar
Striker223
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 18,191
Likes: 1,763
From: Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
I did no such thing lol




It’s not that compelling a vehicle. Lots of vehicles I would buy before one.



Which is why they have to charge you more than somebody similar who they haven’t paid out any claims for, it only makes sense. Of course the cost of your insurance is less than the cost of your claims, that’s because the risk is spread across all their customers. You are absolutely paying more than you would be paying if you had no claims though.



The total amount of risk though is much smaller because the total value of the cars is considerably less. They also probably have your primary as the car that’s the cheapest to save you in premium, if they are halfway decent insurance agents. Adding cars without primary drivers doesn’t add a whole lot to the policy. What year is the Yukon?
Yep, I also had them mark certain cars of mine as ONLY for me to save a tad more. My "main" car is my Jeep according to insurance....issue I've been running into is I am driving the D4 W12 so much I keep having to bump the yearly mileage up.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:37 PM.