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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Same. Interstates it does fine, mad max mode needed sure but it's fine.

Interstate is the use that bothers me the least, local driving it just worse than I am and more critically it robs me of the drive. Absorbs all the fun out of something I would otherwise have a lot of interaction and fun out of, like having your mom drive you around sort of feeling.

IDK if I'm describing it correctly but interstate is fine, not game changing vs ACC though


Most importantly/my real issue as of late with Tesla is where is my model 2 and why did it have to go to subscription for FSD!?!?!? That's like 20% higher car payment and and endless drain thereafter, I like to keep my stuff for 20+ years so it will make zero financial sense to not have a $5k buy once option.

Thats assuming the thing lasts that long....
You use AOL and dial up Internet I bet 🤣
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I pulled 7 German cars out of the ditch recently they were all using Drive Pilot at the time. Trust me it totally happened.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
You use AOL and dial up Internet I bet 🤣
What's wrong with AOL and dial up?
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I pulled 7 German cars out of the ditch recently they were all using Drive Pilot at the time. Trust me it totally happened.
Do you feel like Tesla is still improving on FSD or is it the best it will be?
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:22 PM
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Bro, there's no way I can read through all that stuff you wrote, you definitely have a way of being long winded . But I'll respect that FSD isn't for you. I absolutely love it and will use it for all my long trips 👍
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:31 PM
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Do you feel like Tesla is still improving on FSD or is it the best it will be?
Not sure if serious.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:35 PM
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Do you feel like Tesla is still improving on FSD or is it the best it will be?
Be nice Lex . Yes, every update it gets better. Tesla is betting on FSD. It fails, Tesla fails
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Not sure if serious.
Ok, please let me rephrase.

Since they have gone to cameras for FSD(if I understand correctly), are they approaching near the limit of what they can do with this tech.

What do you predict we will see in the future?

Stay on the same path with camera tech FSD or will they need a new tech for proper full autonomous?

Sorry If I messed that up but I am thinking Tesla FSD is camera based tech so correct me if I'm wrong on that.

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Ok, please let me rephrase.

Since they have gone to cameras for FSD(if I understand correctly), are they approaching near the limit of what they can do with this tech.
Cameras were never the limiting factor, intelligence is. If varous types of sensors were the answer then adding more would make the system more capable, it doesn't.
What do you predict we will see in the future?

Stay on the same path with camera tech FSD or will they need a new tech for proper full autonomous?

Sorry If I messed that up but I am thinking Tesla FSD is camera based tech so correct me if I'm wrong on that.
New tech? Like what? Tesla's system learns by watching the more it watches the better it becomes. The last dot % is the hardest part it requires a monstrous amount of compute and video data. Autonomy is not limited by sensors I don't know where people get this impression from. Lucid has the most sensors of any car their self driving tech is garbage. Waymo is loaded with sensors that car can't even begin to drive on any road anywhere.
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Be nice Lex . Yes, every update it gets better. Tesla is betting on FSD. It fails, Tesla fails
I've been saying this for years at this point, Tesla will live and die based on how FSD and Optimus succeed not by how many cars they sell.

So it looks like Tesla, SpaceX and xAI could become one company not sure how I feel about this. Don't know the likelihood of this happening.

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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
New tech? Like what? Tesla's system learns by watching the more it watches the better it becomes. The last dot % is the hardest part it requires a monstrous amount of compute and video data.
Yes, I see the compute power needing to be increased exponentially for every inch of continued gains.

Unless a different or new kind of tech emerges that doesn't exist yet to help.

I don't know, that's why I asked you. Lol

Anyway... you all have a good night. 🖖🫸🫷

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Yes, I see the compute power needing to be increased exponentially for every inch of continued gains.

Unless a different or new kind of tech emerges that doesn't exist yet to help.

I don't know, that's why I asked you. Lol
The next step is compute in space and this isn't some far off thing it's going to happen in the next 5 years. The reason is two fold 1) solar energy in space is more efficient and effectively free and 2) cooling doesn't require massive infrastructure. Earth based compute means an installation that is largely cooling, in space that requirement becomes passive heat radiation that's it. Starlink is already proving out this concept the difference will be more purpose built compute the basics are already in place.

From that perspective it makes a lot of sense for xAI and SpaceX to merge with Tesla.
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That's some fine thread crapping thanks Striker.
He looks on topic to me
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Old Jan 31, 2026 | 10:30 AM
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It handles snow storms perfectly, plenty of videos. Again you are talking from ignorance
Plenty of videos of it not handling snow storms or even heavy rain, resulting in a crash. so I'm not sure how it can be perfect as you described. Btw those are recent videos on HW4. I know it won't change your mind so I won't waste time posting the videos here.

Perfect means zero mistakes. If there is even 1 mistake, it can't be perfect now can it?
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Last night my wife and I went to a dinner party about 45 miles away in the East Bay, and we left the dinner around 1am. I was dead tired, and FSD was my savior. At one point one of the major interchanges (680 freeway) entrances was shutdown due to construction, and FSD handled it beautifully, hitting the north transition, going to the next exit, than going south. Without missing a beat. You could see people getting confused and not knowing what to do. Not my baby 🙂. It handled the construction zones perfectly, and I just laid back in the seat and relaxed.

FSD is one of the main reasons there's no other cars in my immediate future. If Tesla stops making cars, I'll just hold on to my two, and hit the used market if I have to. Amazing tech 👍
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
Plenty of videos of it not handling snow storms or even heavy rain, resulting in a crash. so I'm not sure how it can be perfect as you described. Btw those are recent videos on HW4. I know it won't change your mind so I won't waste time posting the videos here.

Perfect means zero mistakes. If there is even 1 mistake, it can't be perfect now can it?
Never said it's perfect. I wrote that last night (while using FSD) and people shouldn't drive in snow storms, including using FSD.

You have a hard on against FSD 🙂. Not for you for sure
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Just to add to the above, people should be skeptical of all the praises I'm giving FSD and test drive a Tesla and test out FSD for themselves, because I could be making all this up. So I don't hold anything against anyone who doesn't believe my posts
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