It's the only action the car could take given the confines of how the system works. I personally would never take a taxi that will trap me inside the car because a traffic signal stopped working.

But I'll say it again, even given this and other limitations Waymo has an accident and injury rate about 90% lower than the average driver they deserve full credit for this.

 

did 200 mile round trip last night. i drove about .5 mi. of it. amazing how much less fatiguing the trip was than before!

 

great demo plus great humor and conversation.

 

Seems like a better plan than putting occupants in danger by blowing intersections.


This isn't cybercab but the latest FSD stack so may not be a fair comparison?

 

Cyclists are a menace, **** them. FSD did well it tried to drive just like a person would by not stopping when there were no other moving objects to worry about. Not the letter of the law of course.

Cybercab is running a newer versions versus what is public.

 

The thing is, they completely put traffic to a halt. Yes that's safer than blowing through an intersection, but if they can't navigate traffic lights that are offline and treat them as stop signs, someone didn't plan properly. I would be just as critical to FSD if it didn't know how to navigate traffic lights that are offline for whatever reason

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It's well documented that FSD handles dead traffic lights like stop signs. I've seen plenty of videos on this, and even doing a Google search this same information is given. I haven't myself hit a dead traffic light, but I did hit a flashing one where a power outage had occured earlier, and it handled it exactly like you would a 4-way stop sign

 

Imagine if Tesla was the one that had their entire fleet in a given area stop driving autonomously because of a power failure.

This is accurate.

 

FSD doesn't understand deep snow it's way too conservative on the throttle.

 

I wonder what Tesla robotaxi did during the outage. Did the company just order the drivers to go back to base or were they still offering rides? Normal operations with FSD or using human drivers?

 

Yeah, and I showed a video where within the first 4 minutes of driving FSD blew through 3 stop signs (really 2 because I wouldn't count the pedestrian stop light).

So just because you've seen plenty videos of FSD treating dead traffic lights as stop signs disproves the video I linked here?

"I would be just as critical to FSD if it didn't know how to navigate traffic lights that are offline for whatever reason"

Okay and the video proves it can't navigate dead traffic lights safely lol

I agree, the way I should have been coded to at least pull off the road if it's safe to do so. But again, safety is the number one priority so I would rather they go dead vs not stop at intersections. My imo of course.

 

Waymo adheres to hard parameters if one is out of bounds the car loses the ability to drive. Tesla learns from watching video and constantly improves automatically. You decide which is the better approach.

 

Looks to me lIke each approach has downsides.

 

Are you expecting a particular system to have no downside?

 

No, there’s always a downside.

 

It definitely looks like it's handling a blizzard snow storm here just fine even though it's nerve racking